Well it finally happened to me....system crash requiring total system restore. Fortunately I was able to access the CD burner under "safe mode" and I think I got all my downloads and runtime backed up. However, I obviously have to reinstall P5 and will need to do the upgrade. I had previously only done the SR1 upgrade and had not gone further as I was satisfied with the performance. Now I just want to make sure of something. The new SR3 upgrade...will that be all I need? I mean, I don't have to get the SR2 and SR1 and put them on first do I? I have been fighting this damned crash for three days and have had very little sleep, so be patient with me...the braindead in the title was not a joke.... Scarab<-face in the cornflakes this morning....