I know alot of bandwidth has been spend on the Bryce versus Vue4 issue. I am a Bryce devotee. I can whip up scenes in Bryce in no time and have a high confidence level that I can achieve pretty close to whatever I can imagine using it. But I have no experience in using Poser to create actual scenes. I am absolutely blown away by the high quality of character renders though using V3 and Mike 2. I did my first successful render this weekend of a Vicky 3 character, and yesterday completed a project for a client that blew me away. I just never imagined the control and quality of scene creation would ever arrive. And as much as we bitch and complain about Curious Labs, they still have a damn good product for the price (thanks DAZ). So now I am ready to take the next step and start using scenery, props, Cyclorama type backdrops, etc. I may be jumping the gun a little bit, but in my current work environment, I really have to plan ahead. The question I keep asking myself is: if I am already proficient in Bryce, will I be able to achieve the same high quality renders of complex scenes in Poser and import them into Vue 4? Can I achieve high quality output using Poser alone with backdrops and the many canned scenery sets available for Poser or is the Poser to Vue4 export necessary? Or should I concentrate on learning to import Poser 5 characters into Bryce using the tedious procedure I have read about in numerious tutorials on the subject. I have seen some pretty incredible work done exculsively in Poser alone and using Poser imported figures into Bryce and Vue4 many with little or no postwork. I have seen many posts of people who said that once they used Vue4 they never went back to Bryce. I have read posts from Bryce users who have said that they would never consider Vue4. I have read other posts which complain about the output of Vue4 as being somewhat "grainy" and not a crisp and clean as Bryce (I love crisp and clean). I have not heard from anyone who prefers using Poser for complex scenes over the others.