MartinW opened this issue on Jul 04, 2003 ยท 19 posts
MartinW posted Fri, 04 July 2003 at 3:29 AM
Hi.
Just a quick question.
Does P5 have the same limit as P4/PPP whereby I can't get images rendered at 300dpi at anything over 4096 pixels?
Cheers for the comeback,
Martin
Puntomaus posted Fri, 04 July 2003 at 3:37 AM
If you want to render over 4096 pix you have to use the Firefly renderer. The P4 render engine within P5 has the same limit as the Poser4. I have rendered some images at 5000x6000, 300dpi with the Firefly and it works fine - just takes some hours to finish.
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Spanki posted Fri, 04 July 2003 at 4:00 AM
Just curious.. why do people list a dpi when talking about screen renders? I mean, whether I render something at 4000x4000 pixels or 800x800 pixels, the dpi is fixed to whatever my monitor is set it, isn't it?
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Puntomaus posted Fri, 04 July 2003 at 4:09 AM
No, when I rightclick on my image in the Windows Explorer and look up the file info about height, width and resolution it says 300dpi.
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MartinW posted Fri, 04 July 2003 at 4:28 AM
HI.
Just to clarify, I need 300dpi images and BIG because they are for creating digital prints of a3 to a0 size.
And thanks for all the help.
Guess I need to convince the LW plug-in to load my files - it's crashing at the moment & I need to re-install - or else I'm gonna be upgrading to P5.
Cheers again,
Martin
Spanki posted Fri, 04 July 2003 at 4:35 AM
Punt, interesting.. where exactly are you seeing that? If I select an image, it shows width and height in the info on the left Details/preview area, but I don't see anything about dpi (this is in XP).
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Puntomaus posted Fri, 04 July 2003 at 4:51 AM
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stewer posted Fri, 04 July 2003 at 4:55 AM
dpi is just a number, wether you render 4096x4096 pixels @ 72 dpi or 4096x4096 @ 300 dpi doesn't make any difference.
Spanki posted Fri, 04 July 2003 at 4:57 AM
Ahh.. I had to change to the 'Advanced' display on the Summary page to see that. Interesting.
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BrokenAngel9 posted Fri, 04 July 2003 at 4:58 AM
Eigenschaften in the english version means options or properties...I think. :-)
Spanki posted Fri, 04 July 2003 at 5:01 AM
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BrokenAngel9 posted Fri, 04 July 2003 at 5:13 AM
L Thanks Spanki. Weird thing with my OS is that I somehow managed to get me a mixed german-english version....I can never tell you in with language the menu might appear L
Puntomaus posted Fri, 04 July 2003 at 5:15 AM
Ah yes, properties ... sometimes I forget my vocabulary :-). MartinW: "Just to clarify, I need 300dpi images and BIG because they are for creating digital prints of a3 to a0 size." Yep, same reason over here. Got the requirements from the place that prints the images.
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Hanz posted Fri, 04 July 2003 at 8:51 AM
=> Stewer, Actually I'm not so sure you're right about disregarding the dpi. As I understand things (and, granted, I could be wrong) dpi is an important factor when you make scenes for print. For on-screen viewing, you're right, a dpi value of 72 is definitely funtional and anything higher is over the top, but for print my experience tells me that 72dpi will give you a very pixelated print. If I'm wrong, please educate me. I think I'm right, though. -Hanz
wdupre posted Fri, 04 July 2003 at 9:21 AM
Attached Link: http://nilbs.com/techbabl/dpi_woes.htm
ok here are a couple of articles about dpi http://nilbs.com/techbabl/dpi_ultim.htm the truth is that dpi is only necessary to figure out what size your image is going to print at true 1 pixel per dot setting, assuming that you are using a 300 dpi printer which is also not a given any more. very few printers these days actually read the dpi setting in an image instead they either spread the dots evenly over the resolution of the printer using 1 to 1 or interpalated systems or limit the whole image to a specific size. the only purpose for recording DPI in an image file is for ruler calibration in photo editing and publishing programs.Spanki posted Fri, 04 July 2003 at 9:49 AM
Thanks wdupre, that makes sense. So the dpi value is stored in the image only for printing reference purposes. There's no more actual 'data' in a 4000x4000 pixel image stored as 300 dpi vs. a 4000x4000 pixel image stored as 72 dpi. It's merely a suggested printing resolution.
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Cheesebanana posted Fri, 04 July 2003 at 4:11 PM
take it you guys are talking about deviantprints. they rule. i order stuff off there all the time
igohigh posted Fri, 04 July 2003 at 9:28 PM
Attached Link: http://host1.bondware.com/~syydr/messages.ez?Form.ShowMessage=30362
Relik has a HUGE in-depth thread at RDNA covering just about everything you would want to know about DPI and Printing. And best of all it's written primarily from the topic of Poser. ;) Poser printing Poser printing-Color Correcting Poser printing-RIPs and Printers Poser printing-Printers and Papers http://host1.bondware.com/~syydr/messages.ez?Form.ShowMessage=30362MartinW posted Wed, 09 July 2003 at 4:12 PM
Thanks one and all. For now I am using the workaround of rendering at 100dpi and then asking Photoshop to resample to image up to 300dpi and, after laying an egg about it, it does so. Now if only I could add that 2nd processor, another 512meg of ram... Thanks once again, Martin