Euxeb007 opened this issue on Jul 09, 2003 ยท 13 posts
Euxeb007 posted Wed, 09 July 2003 at 9:09 AM
Ornlu posted Wed, 09 July 2003 at 9:15 AM
Yeah. I don't think that the volumetric atmosphere is worth it.. It multiplies your render time by 10 no matter what settings you are using..
brholte posted Wed, 09 July 2003 at 9:32 AM
not worth it??!!! I'll let my image render for a week if I can get the effect I'm lookin for. But thats just me. I think the volumetric atmosphere is definitly worth the time!
Ornlu posted Wed, 09 July 2003 at 9:43 AM
...Brholte... You can fake it with almost as good results using large volumetrics (very fuzzy) with a render time that may be 2x as long instead of 10... Frankly the longest render time I have EVER had is 2 days, and the second longest was 14 hours... I don't have the patience to let something render for a week.
Slakker posted Wed, 09 July 2003 at 10:42 AM
Nor do I...but man, the top one looks so much better...
Euxeb007 posted Wed, 09 July 2003 at 10:47 AM
I have used only one time the volumetric atmosphere for a picture (except this one). My computer is not strong enough to support this kind of render...
brholte posted Wed, 09 July 2003 at 1:18 PM
good point ornlu, but for the best quality, I prefer to just let it render as long as I need to. I for one have the patience...lol. when you grow up in a house with 5 brothers and 3 sisters you tend to learn that..lol
tjohn posted Wed, 09 July 2003 at 3:20 PM
The top picture does look good...but is there anything there that looks any different from a well-designed DOF?
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shadowdragonlord posted Wed, 09 July 2003 at 7:05 PM
I think I'm with Tjohn on this one, and this effect itself (Depth-of-Field) can be done WAAAAYYY faster in postwork than with Bryce itself. These machines are Artificial Stupids, not Artificial Intelligence-es, and making a 17-second render go for 10 hours for no really necessary reason is just poor economics. Even for animation, it would be far faster to render to images and run the DOF with Adobe After-Effects or some such utility... But it's cool that you did this, Euxeb007, I always love to see more benchmarking and time-projections on this great program...
catlin_mc posted Wed, 09 July 2003 at 7:18 PM
As long as it works.................8)
EYECON posted Wed, 09 July 2003 at 7:33 PM
i have to agree with the others using postwork... postwork is a whole lot better... well let me see what i can add so that i would get the ten hour effect.... mmmm 1. Gaussian Blur or 3 coupled with a layer mask 2. mmmmmm thats it! hahahahah that'll take what? 30 mins max? or even less... you still add a few others like sharpen with layer mask, glow, glare and others... but your test eux is great at least i know that i should not really turn that options on... (now if i was using vue... then it'll be lot faster...)
Euxeb007 posted Wed, 09 July 2003 at 10:20 PM
Yes, After-effect and Photoshop are good to supply for this effects... ;0)
Incarnadine posted Thu, 10 July 2003 at 1:49 PM
The problem with postwork DOF using masks is when using transparencies or metaballs your depth mask render is buggered. To me the best DOF effect is a subtle one suited for close range images.
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