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Subject: Free Cyber Ninja, request input?

Ra Graphics opened this issue on Jul 17, 2003 ยท 73 posts


Ra Graphics posted Thu, 17 July 2003 at 9:20 AM

This is a little project I thought I would share with the Renderosity Public, or just to purchasers of 2 items or more in my store. I will base my decision on the amount of responses I get and input from this forum.

It is not finished just yet, I still have to add a few bells and whistles to the texture and props, fix seams more texture detail etc.

I cannot offer it in my store because of the close design to the character which I am sure some of you know about, but I wanted to share it to those that would appreciate it. So post your comments please and I will go from there.

David
Ra Graphics


heyDerick posted Thu, 17 July 2003 at 10:50 AM

I like it it looks awesome But why cant you offerit in your store? But i would love to have it as a freebie i would use it on many renders to come


Giana posted Thu, 17 July 2003 at 11:33 AM

so the suit is painted onto the Mike texture, yes? you cropped off his feet, and i'm curious as to whether or not they are bare or if they have soft boots, etc? thanks!


ChromeTiger posted Thu, 17 July 2003 at 11:51 AM

David, this looks great, almost dead-on to the character you mentioned. :-) I for one would love seeing this as a freebie...I can already see pictures in my head as to how I'd use him. Great Job! ChromeTiger


c1rcle posted Thu, 17 July 2003 at 12:45 PM

very nice :) my head is already buzzing with ideas for this one. Just need a decent vilian type guy for him to go against :)


Ra Graphics posted Thu, 17 July 2003 at 2:03 PM

Answer to questions:

I wouldn't offer it in my store mainly because I think there would be some member that would say something about the fact it is similar to a character. Then I would get it yanked out of my store, as it has already happened to me for a sword I made along time ago so I would not want to risk it.

As far as a freebee I really feel artist freebees are under appreciated, and I would not want that to happen here
because this did take a good amount of my time to create.
Thats why I am asking for members opinions.

The reason I want to offer it to my purchasers, because they have bought something from my store, and it's kind of given back to them for buying two items or more from my store.

Yes the suit is painted on.

There are no shoes for him at this time.

A close up of the head for those who may want a closer look


Redfern posted Thu, 17 July 2003 at 3:35 PM

I can see how this texture might be adapted to Stephanie or especially Aiko (to achieve koshiro's "Battle Angel Alita" look) I could grey-scale it and throw in a minor reflection map for a metallic sheen. Yes, this had many possibilities! Sincerely, Bill

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Ra Graphics posted Thu, 17 July 2003 at 3:43 PM

Your right the texture and the head will work for Stephanie so the user can make a Cyber-ninja female.


Wadus posted Thu, 17 July 2003 at 5:12 PM

He looks like the gut from MGS. Awesome job!!


queri posted Thu, 17 July 2003 at 11:30 PM

It's very very slick and sexy! All for it being a freebie-- though I have bought two or three things from you;)) Love the unisex possibilities. Emily


JurgenDoe posted Fri, 18 July 2003 at 12:14 AM

Wow awesome and fantastic job. Looks great :)

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willowdream posted Fri, 18 July 2003 at 9:31 AM

its georgous!! i would love to see this as a freebie for purchasers or in the rosity freebie section :)


americanChi posted Fri, 18 July 2003 at 9:32 AM

It really looks awesome. It is going to be a hit!


Kath13 posted Fri, 18 July 2003 at 9:32 AM

Looks amazing - Great work (I especially love the unisex possiblilites).


TT posted Fri, 18 July 2003 at 9:43 AM

Excellent work!:)

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Patricia posted Fri, 18 July 2003 at 9:46 AM

Sleek, elegant design--though I have no idea what character it resembles, I'd love to have it. I hope you'll post your decision :)


doerp posted Fri, 18 July 2003 at 9:47 AM

Wow, that looks great! He would fit perfectly for a project Im planning. Nice work! Sascha


hillbill posted Fri, 18 July 2003 at 9:49 AM

Looks pretty cool to me, I'd probably buy it!!


cwshorty posted Fri, 18 July 2003 at 9:52 AM

This is cool as hell, I like it very much!


gwood posted Fri, 18 July 2003 at 9:53 AM

There is a way to legitimately offer it in your store, I believe: create it as a Photoshop .PSD file with transparencies in the areas where the base (copyrighted) Mike texture would show through, with instructions on how to overlay the Ninja texture to the base texture and then 'fuse' them together. People wouldn't even have to own Photoshop to do this -- an evaluation copy of Paint Shop Pro would also work (it handles .PSDs reasonably well). Of course, everyone who uses your Ninja texture would still have to legitimately own a copy of Mike's texture (or Steph's, I guess...).

I'm doing something like this right now with V3, creating a series of skin-tight textures that I'll eventually be making available for free on my website. Same procedure will apply -- download 'em, and use PS or PSP to meld them to the base V3 texture.

As for the aesthetics, it looks quite nice! Good job. And yes, I can see how it would be time-consuming, particularly if you aren't using one of the 3D editors to apply the texture correctly...

Good job!

Garth


lalverson posted Fri, 18 July 2003 at 10:02 AM

I do indeed like the look. But what I REALLY need is a Mike version of you original cyber suit you did for Vicky. It's detail and layout is exactly what I need to use that texture for serveal stories I'm writting and illustating. But what you have here is very cool indeed and I see where selling it could be a prob, because it does look like the character you mention, ecxept this one is a lot lighter and clearer to see.


dvitola posted Fri, 18 July 2003 at 10:04 AM

Great idea! I love the colors. Yes, I could use this fellow in several of my upcoming art pieces. Denny


SophiaDeer posted Fri, 18 July 2003 at 10:07 AM

Excellent work David! This is a very handsome outfit! Looks fantastic. Warm Regards, Nancy (SophiaDeer)

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ming posted Fri, 18 July 2003 at 10:08 AM

I like it, and what character does he resemble?


rvartist posted Fri, 18 July 2003 at 10:21 AM

Killer piece of work


tyebo4 posted Fri, 18 July 2003 at 10:28 AM

Hey I'd get it even if it wasn't a freebie, as long as it didn't cost to much that is...LOL But I think it's great as like the others I would do many renders with it that's for sure...good job in my book, since I can't make them to save my life so I have to envy all of you works of art!!...lol


ToniDunlap posted Fri, 18 July 2003 at 10:29 AM

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Handsome. A striking character. Tickles the imagination and will surely inspire great work from all who use the Cyber Ninja. One of those folks is me! Great work.

ardence posted Fri, 18 July 2003 at 10:53 AM

This is awesome, it looks just like the original character! I love it. The texture would also look really good on Victoria and Stephanie.


Neo10 posted Fri, 18 July 2003 at 11:06 AM

Looks good i think you should go for it. Even though i dont qualify for the 2 purchaser requirment lol.


RnRWoman posted Fri, 18 July 2003 at 11:10 AM

Freebie sounds kewl. Great job on the texture. :)


darknewt posted Fri, 18 July 2003 at 11:11 AM

Yes i would download it from a free section.... I also would consider a purchase. If several variations to a mat pose then I would purchase. I spend WAY to much money on textures and chars every month.... so I am now on a texture diet.... anyway. As for free stuff providers... i think they are GODS. they share their passion for this art form and I for one cant say thank you enough!!! having said that I would like to see some standardization in file naming and stuff to make it easer for the consumer to know who made it what char will it fit on and is it comercial usage. I have a tendency to lose readme files. Then I have to dig to find that kind of information out. But i think this comment is for another forum. If nothing else I hope this input helps in your decision.


MadYuri posted Fri, 18 July 2003 at 11:21 AM

I would buy it, but a freebie is better. ;)
I second the request for a male or V3 version of the vicky cybersuit.


ladydawg posted Fri, 18 July 2003 at 11:22 AM

Damn David! That's gorgeous and the unisex part makes it even better. I totally understand what you mean about putting it in the store. As a bonus for buyers is a very good idea. It's also why I usually return to that persons store, and dang if I wasn't there last night on your new V texture and putting it in my private wishlist. I say go for it from what I've seen of your work, you'll have plenty of business coming your way! Dee AKA Ladydawg


Fillingim posted Fri, 18 July 2003 at 11:26 AM

Excellent I thjink with a little more effort on the suit you could make the character go from being a human in a bodysuit to a mechanoid of some sort. I love the helmet feature and the colors of the texture. Very Well Done. Too bad you cannot offer it in your store. Fillingim


Giana posted Fri, 18 July 2003 at 11:30 AM

David, I agree with your perspective regarding the lack of appreciation on freebies in the FreeStuff area. I know you're looking for feedback here, and personally, I was thinking the same thing mentioned above about using the set on a Steph character. I have one of your packages that I purchased myself and one other item that was purchased for me as a gift, so I've no idea if that qualifies for your thought process on giving it to customers who own two or more of your items. And I will state that my opinion does not change regardless of qualification: free is nice, it is great for all of us users, but if you feel that your efforts to create this will be taken for granted, then give it only to those that fall within whatever defining parameters you set to receive it. I will also say that if I do not qualify, this set looks interesting enough to me that I would go look through your store. And my use of the word "I" is not meant to be addressing whether I qualify, but rather the pack is enough to generate interest perhaps in those that currently would not qualify [if this makes sense??]. Not sure if this is the kind of feedback you're striving for, but those are my thoughts, and I think that ultimately your choice should be what you feel is the most comfortable for you.


Luthoricas posted Fri, 18 July 2003 at 11:34 AM

Looks pretty cool! I like it. And a new 'rosity coupon for 10% just came out too! Yes, I'd be more inclined to visit your store.


Luthoricas posted Fri, 18 July 2003 at 11:44 AM

Okay, I've got Aura and the TPC-V7500 in my wishlist (already have the CyberSuit)... This outfit would go well with Vicky's cybersuit. Thank you for considering offering it as a freebie. And yes, I agree that merchant freebies are often under-appreciated.


Pardo posted Fri, 18 July 2003 at 12:03 PM

Definitely worth releasing. This looks like an item worth purchasing, so who can argue with getting it as a freebie.


Marque posted Fri, 18 July 2003 at 12:11 PM

Freebie would be great but only if it is for both commercial and non commercial use. Marque


Vestmann posted Fri, 18 July 2003 at 12:26 PM

This would make an escellent freebie. Very generous. The character is extremely cool and would be useable in many circumstances. Go for it.




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motyka posted Fri, 18 July 2003 at 12:29 PM

This is really good looking. It has a sleek look to it and I just love it. I think you did a super job and it makes it even more special by you making it a freebie! - Nancy


GraphicFoxx posted Fri, 18 July 2003 at 12:34 PM

Freebie would be good, as it doesn't exclude anybody. But I see where you're going with the reward for purchasers of your store. It's a tough call really. I say go for what you feel best. You spent time on this, and it's up to you on how you want to distribute it. How about releasing it to purchasers, and if there's enough demand, then release it free for all? I must say though, that's a damn killer texture. Instant recognizability (if that's even a word) for the character it's based on. How about more in the series? :)


pixelfader posted Fri, 18 July 2003 at 12:34 PM

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Looks amazing, I'm a Metal Gear Solid fan so i know what this is and who it is..lol. Amazing work and i can see a promo render in my head for it if you want to talk...mixed up with one of my scenes..:) Look forward to seeing it out there.

jarm posted Fri, 18 July 2003 at 12:44 PM

This is very cool looking.


shadowblade posted Fri, 18 July 2003 at 1:18 PM

Now, that is one killer looking outfit. I can think of a couple of images already. Freebie or not, I'd love to have it.


tyebo4 posted Fri, 18 July 2003 at 1:24 PM

totally amazing...LOL


Lord_Blodgett posted Fri, 18 July 2003 at 2:33 PM

I spend WAY too much and download WAY too many frebies as it is (I just bought a 120 gig hard drive to dedicate to Poser). I would certainly download it as a freebie and if I could swing the cash purchase it if available, if it were not so close to the other ... :-)


Coleman posted Fri, 18 July 2003 at 3:32 PM

I love the helmet and arm textures. I'm not knockin' your work, this is just an observation: His skin seems photorealistic, but the body suit texture looks like watercoloring. I like the design of the body suit, but I'm intrigued by the coloring scheme. I am always looking for action and hero body mats like this 'cos you can shape Mike or Steph's body and simply apply this texture, whereas if this were a clothing item I'd have to screw with clothing morphs. I would buy a mat pack of cyber body textures like this. BTW - I love your sonic cycle, it's been being put to good use by a 3d heroine - ha ha ram


Seven Wolves posted Fri, 18 July 2003 at 4:48 PM

Definitely interesting. Would be great for some nice dark sci-fi looking projects :)


FRC1 posted Fri, 18 July 2003 at 4:56 PM

It looks awesome, I could make good use of this pack.


Osirusblue posted Fri, 18 July 2003 at 5:22 PM

Definitely very cool! Great work! I love the idea that it can be used for more than one character. I think it would make a great freebie, which in theory should drive people to buy things from you. Of course, those of us who already have already know how cool your stuff is. Great work!

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razor24 posted Fri, 18 July 2003 at 5:35 PM

Very nice...I have only bought one thing from you so I wouldn't have a problem buying one more for this character..


elektra posted Fri, 18 July 2003 at 6:44 PM

I like it. I would use it.


Ra Graphics posted Fri, 18 July 2003 at 7:03 PM

To Gwood: This is not the Michael Texture Gwood, but if it looks to similar I guess I should fix that, because I wouldn't want to be accused of using DAZ's texture when I have the resources to create my own so that is definitely something I will fix. My Decision: Since I had a good response from buyers in my sore I am going to offer it to anyone who has purchased 2 items or more in my store. Because I want to show my appreciation for return customers thank you very much everyone for this response It helped me make the correct decision in my mind. David Ra Graphics


sassy_lady posted Fri, 18 July 2003 at 7:07 PM

Great work David. No wonder I purchased three of your products!!


Kiernnan posted Fri, 18 July 2003 at 7:17 PM

Creating textures is very hard and demanding work. Whatever you decide (freebies or thank-you) I'm sure the graphic community here will appreciate your generosity. Great work!!


obfuscate posted Fri, 18 July 2003 at 7:52 PM

It's definitely a nice texture, but reading down the posts, my mind kept wandering back to the "certain members objecting" part. If you're giving it away to purchasers, I would say email them a link, and keep Renderosity completely out of the distribution, so nobody can claim/accuse the site of having anything to do with copyright infringement. Having gone through some of that myself, and you having done the same in the past, best to just take the easier way and not even risk one whiner. Okay, I'll stop now before I start sounding too bitter. Still a very nice texture/prop set though. Versatility is one of my main considerations for purchases, and if a freebie is versatile, even better. Also, giving away little freebies/samplers is always good for buisness.


Tirjasdyn posted Fri, 18 July 2003 at 8:48 PM

This is very nice and I can think of thousands of ways to use it just off the top of my head! I love the sleek and faceless look, it add mystery. I've been very happy with the product I've purchased from you and have most of your other stuff in my wishlist for when I have the money. I will buy another product sooner just to get this!

Tirjasdyn
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RonGC posted Fri, 18 July 2003 at 10:19 PM

Loved your cyber suit :-) This looks very sharp as well :-)


n3k0 posted Fri, 18 July 2003 at 10:31 PM

Hey, I also would like it in a Vicky and Stephy version, too. (Yup, I was thinking of Battle Angel Alita, too. Currently reading the graphic novels.) I would also like the CyberSuit (which I also own) in a Michael and Stephy version, too.


Dragon99 posted Fri, 18 July 2003 at 10:35 PM

Awsome work as normal. Can't wait to get him. The Cybersuit has been awsome and your Post work tutorial has been a great help. Look forward to more of your characters like Aura, she is my next purchase.


Disciple3d posted Sat, 19 July 2003 at 1:01 AM

I find this very stylistic and cool! I totally dig it. Regards, Brent

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jebberwacky posted Sat, 19 July 2003 at 4:05 AM

Well if it is any consolation, I love your work and would purchase this as I have your other products. Great texturing and top-notch quality. Freebie or no, this is a worthy piece of sci-fi runtime.


alpha_omega posted Sat, 19 July 2003 at 5:03 AM

This is an extremely cool idea, David! The head is particularly interesting... maybe a version for mike and vicky / steph? can't wait!!! cheers!! ^-^

Cheers!

alpha_omega


The Wraith posted Sat, 19 July 2003 at 5:13 PM

Incredible, just incredible. Definitely worth a PURCHASE, but if you want to give it away for free I am definitely on the list of people who would like to get their hands on this.


kenjyro posted Sat, 19 July 2003 at 6:53 PM

This is great , I love the texture of it, awesome piece of art.


Kate posted Sun, 20 July 2003 at 7:31 PM

Very very nice...would add this to my collection for sure if it was for sale, and you would be very generous giving it away as a freebie :) Cheers


gator141 posted Mon, 21 July 2003 at 10:22 PM

This looks very nice and I would love it either as a freebie or for some of your customers who have bought a certain amount from you


SirReal posted Mon, 21 July 2003 at 10:40 PM

This looks great! A keeper as a freebi and a solid purchase with textures and a few bells and whistles (aka utility belt, etc. LOL) My project could use a good Cyber Jubei (anime ref)...


dark_thoughts posted Tue, 22 July 2003 at 1:29 AM

I would LOVE to own him, cant wait till you are finished addingthe final touches, keep us posted!


digitalbob posted Tue, 22 July 2003 at 10:50 AM

Great looking character, I'm sure I can use it somewhere


Cyberstorm posted Tue, 22 July 2003 at 6:22 PM

Nice work. The helmet is nice and smooth. Is the texture for Mike, his body suit or both?


Ghostofmacbeth posted Wed, 23 July 2003 at 10:14 AM

Looks good ...