In art school it was pounded into me that the idea was the point, not the amount of nostrils of the nose. You had to convey your idea as clearly as possible, and not bother so much with detail. When I got into this group, the backbone established by this constant nagging rose, and I was left wondering if the idea of realism in a picture is really that necessary as long as the mood, the pose, and the idea was clearly communicated. What is your views on this? Does Vicky 3 need to have every glistening bead of sweat positioned perfectly on her body? Or is the message the most important to you? I guess what I'm asking, and perhaps it sounds horrible, whether you want the perfect romantic holiday shot, or if you want art? And where's the old ugly fat men or women by the way? :-)