alamanos opened this issue on Jul 28, 2003 ยท 37 posts
alamanos posted Mon, 28 July 2003 at 2:55 PM
Attached Link: http://www.renderosity.com/viewed.ez?galleryid=455985&Start=13&Sectionid=19&filter_genre_id=0&Whats
I was checkingh the cinema 4d gallery and came across this incredible image of mike.. rendered in cinema 4d... point is u can download.. a full working demo of cinema 4d.. (save disabled) and then download a free plugin from "Amazone's City" http://www.amazonescity.com/ point is no need to wait for dazstudio or anyone else... check the image out.. speaks for itself... Nick
Dizzie posted Mon, 28 July 2003 at 3:24 PM
I'm missing something....if the save is disabled, then what good is it other than to see how it works?
Mason posted Mon, 28 July 2003 at 3:25 PM
Looks good but a lot of packages have obj imports that will take a static Poser 4 scene up to a point and render it. Bryce does this. The problem is the amount of fix up one has to do on materials especially if you are using 5 nodes. I went to the amazonescity site (my kind of site btw :) but couldn't find the plugin. Does it import a straight pz3 file and render without adjustments or do you have to go and tweak materials etc? Carrara supposedly imports poser but upon talking to their rep at comicon its just an obj file import. What is needed is a better renderer that also allows figure posing in the app. That would be perfect. Vue imports pz3 files but I don't think it handles the nodes. I use a lot of material nodes now making exporting rather tough.
troubleTO posted Mon, 28 July 2003 at 3:34 PM
Attached Link: http://www.amazonescity.com/download/free3dformembers/index.php
i found it ok ... but it is in French i think
Mazak posted Mon, 28 July 2003 at 3:40 PM
Attached Link: http://forums.mec4d.com/viewforum.php?f=36
Nicky has a forum at Mec4D.com! She helps always when a user has questions :) Mazak BTW I am gladly someone love my picture :)
alamanos posted Mon, 28 July 2003 at 3:40 PM
I just started playing with it today.. takes about 2 minutes to set up your figure with the plugin... step#1 export wavefront object step#2 save figure with clothes etc... as a cr2.. in poser step#3 open cinema step#4 load object step$5 run plugin.. step #6 load saved cr2 from before (or a pose mat file) step #7 build mat's (just press on key in plugin)... does the transpancy,bumps,etc..) step#8 render (full screen) no tweaking needed.. step #9 snag it (screen capture)
alamanos posted Mon, 28 July 2003 at 3:43 PM
by the way Mazek.. i thought your image was incredible... inspired me to research cinema 4d.. by the way how did u setup the lighting.. is that hdri with radiosity? nick
Mazak posted Mon, 28 July 2003 at 3:48 PM
Attached Link: http://athens.ict.usc.edu/Probes/
Yes It's HDRI... I use one of the light probes from: http://athens.ict.usc.edu/Probes/ (Uffizi Gallery Probe) Mazak
stewer posted Mon, 28 July 2003 at 3:57 PM
Pssst: Poser 5 SR3 has a probelight node in the material room...
stewer posted Mon, 28 July 2003 at 5:30 PM
Mazak - what is making the shadows in that image? Is that from HDRI, ambient occlusion or did you add an area light from the upper left?
Mazak posted Mon, 28 July 2003 at 5:51 PM
The scene has no 'lights' The light and shadows are created by the HDRI map. The HDRI texture is mapped to a 'Sky-Object'. And another important setting is to deactivate 'lightautomatic' in render setting. I use German C4D I hope it's translated correct. Mazak p.s. stewer Bei fragen IM an mich ;-)
Mazak posted Mon, 28 July 2003 at 5:58 PM
Attached Link: http://www.rain.org/~msavard/hdri/Articles/UsingHDRIs.html
Link for a HDRI tutorial... Mazak
Paoli posted Mon, 28 July 2003 at 6:22 PM
pretty nice! off checking out
farang posted Mon, 28 July 2003 at 6:48 PM
You need to create new ones if you want them to run correctly in Cin 4D. C4D has an excellent render engine by the way. They also have a very cool plug-in called "Dynamics" that models liquids, cloth, collision detection and gravity but in many ways Posers features are better.
wolf359 posted Mon, 28 July 2003 at 6:51 PM
they work if you move them to the correct channel in the materials manager.
Mazak posted Mon, 28 July 2003 at 6:56 PM
Nicky's plug-in place the transmap correct to the alpha map channel ;-) Mazak
mondoxjake posted Mon, 28 July 2003 at 7:28 PM
Sounds interesting, but question on Step #9: When doing a screen capture you are getting the graphic at 'screen resolution'and not render resolution, correct? So doesn't that degrade the image quality somewhat? I may not know what I am talking about here, but am curious about that.
stewer posted Mon, 28 July 2003 at 7:37 PM
How long does HDRI take to render in C4D?
Mazak posted Mon, 28 July 2003 at 7:42 PM
@ mondoxjake: C4D has an option to render in a picture-manager (Bild-Manager). You can render the picture as big as you wish! Move in this manager the sliders, make your screenshots and compose the cropped image in a paint program. I hope this work for the Demo version. Mazak
alamanos posted Mon, 28 July 2003 at 8:07 PM
mondoxjake: render resolution.. it reallity at it really means is you're increasing the size of the image.. (it's really only usefull for prinitng).. becuase when u look at somethimg on your monitor.. you are still limited by your monitors screen resolution.. in most cases 72dpi.. so what u really want to do is get as many dots in yoiuyr image as possible... what i do.. just before i render .. i switch my monitor to 1600 x 900.. speed to render: default render settings for hdri.. low qual ; 3 minutes mediam qual: 10-20 min high qual: 20 min to 10 hours!
brandonc posted Tue, 29 July 2003 at 2:17 AM
8.1 cinema has native support for this
c1rcle posted Tue, 29 July 2003 at 4:25 AM
stewer can you start another thread with some details of this probe light node in poser please :) & that is an amazing pic Mazak, mike never normally looks that good.
stewer posted Tue, 29 July 2003 at 4:57 AM
Attached Link: http://graphics.stanford.edu/papers/envmap/
The probelight node appears to be an implementation of the algorithm behind the link. It is very fast at diffuse lighting, but does not do shadows.
c1rcle posted Tue, 29 July 2003 at 5:14 AM
I won't pretend to understand a word of what's at that link :) but it works & that's all that matters really :D thanks stewer (wonders how this would fit in with the Z-toon technique)
stewer posted Tue, 29 July 2003 at 5:24 AM
ronstuff posted Tue, 29 July 2003 at 9:22 PM
ronstuff posted Tue, 29 July 2003 at 9:23 PM
JurgenDoe posted Wed, 30 July 2003 at 3:58 AM
I got C4D XL7 can I use this plugin too and where do I put it . Just starting to learn C4D a bit :)
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Mazak posted Wed, 30 July 2003 at 7:27 AM
Attached Link: http://www.amazonescity.com/download/free3dformembers/oldplug.html
Here a link to old C4D 7 version, not tested, follow the readme, try it. ;) Mazak
JurgenDoe posted Wed, 30 July 2003 at 1:26 PM
Thanks man you are the best :)
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swfreeman posted Thu, 31 July 2003 at 1:04 PM
does it work for 8.0 too?
swfreeman posted Thu, 31 July 2003 at 1:06 PM
and btw..could someone write a short but accurate tutorial for it? because i dont know what is meant with export wavefront obj...when the cloth stuff and the posing isnt done yet... im lost :p
Mazak posted Thu, 31 July 2003 at 1:33 PM
Attached Link: http://www.amazonescity.com/download/free3dformembers/amazonesplughelp.html
Export wavefront objects in poser: File--> Export--> WavefrontObj... At Maxon.net you can download the free 8.1 update or the demo release. Tutorial how use the plugin: http://www.amazonescity.com/download/free3dformembers/amazonesplughelp.html Nicky's Forum: http://forums.mec4d.com/viewforum.php?f=36 Mazak
swfreeman posted Thu, 31 July 2003 at 2:34 PM
what kind of wavefront objects? the poserdmodel with the clothes on...or the base obj from the obj folder.. i really dont get it..because i dont see the point wich model i should export to wavefront obj.. thank you
Spanki posted Fri, 01 August 2003 at 5:37 AM
Attached Link: http://www.renderosity.com/viewed.ez?galleryid=434137&Start=13&Artist=Dash&ByArtist=Yes
Dash also uses C4D to render (NUDITY warning on link). I have v7.3, but so far just use it to model with (I haven't figured out how to do good lighting for renders in it yet).Cinema4D Plugins (Home of Riptide, Riptide Pro, Undertow, Morph Mill, KyamaSlide and I/Ogre plugins) Poser products Freelance Modelling, Poser Rigging, UV-mapping work for hire.
c1rcle posted Fri, 01 August 2003 at 6:29 AM
freeman pose the figure/s you want in poser then use the export option from the file menu, don't try importing the original obj from the geocities folder all you'll get is the figure in the default position.
swfreeman posted Fri, 01 August 2003 at 8:21 AM
ok..thought so... does it work with all the clothes on? or did i have to split the whole posed and clothed model up? i thought first the cr2 file i have to import into the plugin applys the library saved pose to the base geometries object.. what are the export settings in poser? default? ok.. thx..