OK. First of all, I couldn't find a single lighting tute here. Second of all, I've been R-ing TFM for hours, (pages 200 - 204) and getting nowhere. The problem I'm making some lighting sets for a room and can't seem to get the shadows right. For each corner, I'm using 1 spotlight from the center of the room (80% intensity/casts shadows) and one 'fill' spotlight from the far corner (50% intensity/no shadows). On the main spotlight Angle Start = 0.00 Angle End = 100.00 Dist. Start/End = 0.00 Shadow = 0.700 Map size (all lights) 1024 Everything looks OK except that I can't seem to get the shadows to start and end properly. I've tried every combination of Angle Start/End and Dist Start/End. This afternoon I did 170+ renders while checking the settings. Specifically, I would like to know if anyone understands the values for Angle Start/End. The manual talks about percentages, but the values go from 0.00 - 160.00. Is this 160%? And Dist Start/End have numerical values like trans values. Are they poser units? Or alternately, does anyone know of a good SPOTLIGHT tute? TIA mac