Hi Redneck. I took a stab at your problem. I used a program called Anim8or 3d Modeler (freeware at http://www.anim8or.com/welcome.htm; very good, I just downloaded it last night). In about 15 minutes I made a a rough dirigible model. Then I saved as obj file and imported into Bryce. Attached is example picture. I can email you the obj file if you want. Rich

I've made a lot of progress in my own experiments and also discussing ideas with other folks. Unfortunately, I am in Belgium right now and won't be able to start playing again until later this week when I get home. Should have some good stuff then. Thanks for your help. Mitch