okay, this is an image I'm working on, and I think It's pretty much complete. What you are looking at is an un-antialiased render of it. 5 minutes ago, I went into the render options and pretty much turned everything on, and started a new render. It hasn't even gone halfway through the first time down yet, and it hasn't even hit the mossy water yet, sheesh...................... I'm gonna take a stab at it and guess that it will take around a week to render (I guess really high, that way I'm pleasantly suprised if it doesn't take quite as long!!) While I'm waiting, please let me know what you think. I don't know if I'm quite satisfied with the lighting. I'll post a message in this thread when the image has finally finished rendering.