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Careful not to upset more members, or else we'll get called out. For your personal entertainment, check out this link...be sure to click 'No' on the shockwave plugin. Sometimes I wish people would handle a situation via private IM, but they took a different route to remedy things I guess. I think the maturity is more on this end to be honest. Oh well, my life will go on and I'm sure the lives of the other four "a**holes"...hahaha...oh and they called out the mods too. May as well hit the admins too! MD

I just find it kinda offending to be called out like that when there's no proof I was even referring to them...and that goes for all the others that are listed too. Ah, it's good for entertainment value anyhow! We all have an enemy or two. ;) MD

Lovely...but I'm not acddoug LOL. I don't even know how this thing started and how it blew up to be this big thing. Oh well.

Woah dear, at the risk of being childish... What exactly happened?

I'm really hurt! They mis-spelled my last name! Otherwise, I'm Honored to be included with such august and exalted company. I won't even reciprocate this person's attack. The truth will out, and they have shown the true level of their maturity and intelligence in front of the entire forum. Methinks they doth protesteth too much...

That's funny I don't remember any 'names' being mentioned in that particular thread, and I felt the discussion quite adult, you guys should not have been called out, AND because this is public I do believe it's 'liable' and therefore open to prosecution by law...and although I might not rank with you guys, my personal opinion is that their stuff is nothing to write home about, this is a tempest in a teacup....;]

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Didn't see my name there, maybe she removed it, I'm such a nice guy, LOL.

This is not my "second childhood". I'm not finished with the first one yet.

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Zhann, you're a giant, and mistress of the stormy seas I might add!

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Antevark, I wrote that in response to Zhanns' saying "I may not rank with you guys". She may have been saying something humble, or she may have been saying, "I'm not included in this list of wanted men"!. I wasn't sure which.

The thread! Show me the thread!

dude..... I don't even understand.... I'm gonna forget I ever even read that

Ah, I'm not even on the list! Damn :P Why can't I make any enemies. Why am I cursed with this positive aura. Whahahayyye!

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Quote: "acddoug - Doug Martin - he claims to be an "Acute Compulsive Disorder" person - obviously not enough medication! " If you're gonna slam someone, at least spell the name right and get the disorder right. And I would encourage Sybil to get ON medication, it does wonders for multiple personality disorder.

what in god's sweet name was all of this about? Drac

"what in god's sweet name was all of this about?" I think the person that made the site at the link saw one of our threads about the Hot20 stating that some people probably vote for them selves with multiple users or have friends to vote for them. I get the impression that he/she didn't want to act like an adult and join the 'is the hot 20 about popularity or artistic quality' discussion in a normal way, but instead decided to go and be a child by acting stupid behind our backs.

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I'm dissappointed that her site does not show much of her other works. Seems she's been around for many years, maybe she'll be adding her tradional art at a later time? (referring to what Janart said in the other thread). I also think its a shame that she took what was said as a personal attack. Its possible to get more votes than comments. I know that I have voted for some images without leaving a comment. Its all just very sad. I don't think we are a bad people here. Ang

Well, I don't think I can go on.... But seriously, talk about making waaaaaaaay too much out of something. Oh well, at least I'm at the top of the list :)

the background music is cool, tho... I love ragtime.

Ooooooooooooooh, Tjohn you dog she removed you from the list!!!! You should be upset to be rubbed out from such exclusive company. ;) I guess now we can be referred to as the "Fabulous Four". I woke up this morning and actually had a great laugh about it either way. I read what her friend said in the other thread and I'm impressed she's a professional artist...but one with a quick trigger to boot. As much as I wished she could have stuck around and at least worked something out with us, I guess they made their decision and that's that. I hope the rest of the community isn't affected by this, it sounds like we've rounded up a pretty good group of troops to back us on this one. I appreciate the support and I'm sure the others do too. Ah...not much else to say on this moot (sp?) point. MD

I will no longer be uploading my Bryce 5 images to Renderosity. :( >There is a group of snotty, childish members that perform character assassinations regularly to any member who happens to get on the "Hot 20" list, other than their "group." When has this ever happened? I've never done it, still haven't to be honest. >They think they own the voting rights, and the list... We all do, we're an open community. >...and will flame anyone with the idea "they cheated" and then call them names. We have? I don't recall. Must've been that bad dream you had last night. >I refuse to take part in their childish behaviors. You already have. >Unfortunately, the managers of the forums do nothing to stop this. AS already stated why he didn't, we all know and love AgentSmith and Clay. They're the bestest people! >The real a**holes are thus named that have done this very thing to me, since they flamed me personally on a public message board with lies. Nah, we haven't flamed anyone personally. You should post the thread on your site and let your fans (all three of them) be the judge. >mloates - M. Loates MadDog31 - Ian Johns acddoug - Doug Martin - he claims to be an "Acute Compulsive Disorder" person - obviously not enough medication! danamo - Dan Vieth Wow, personal digs right back at us...real mature. >I excuse them NOT. They are hateful, and hurtful beings. Someday, I hope they grow up. sniff sniff -------------------- Flame us on public medium like that, you gotta expect this in return! I'm not a revengeful (sp) person, but I don't appreciate what happened to myself or my other friends. MD

I agree, MadDog--it's unfortunate that we couldn't all get along. Considering when we never mentioned it whether or not it was her work we were speaking of, she certainly appeared defensive about it. As an artist, it's a bit surprising that she reacted so strongly (I mean, we've all received negative feedback at one point or another haven't we). Regardless, I hope she continues with her art--from her website, it seems she truly enjoys it. Stormi, if you read this, I don't think anyone meant to cause you hurt. It's unfortunate that it happened. Best wishes, and happy rendering.

Hey, I remember something in the thread about, 'Rochr and hobbit, then you get about 3 or 4 down'... I don't remember anyone ever referring to her by name or even being sure which picture was in that place until Hurricane Stormi blew in and started blasting everyone with lightning bolts. Kinda makes ya wonder why she picked that nom de plume? I even defended the communities right to vote as they wish. Don't know why your opinion counts more than the seven who voted for her anyway. This continued childish behavior has reversed my opinion however. None proclaim their innocence as loud as the guilty. Her behavior makes it clear she thinks she didn't do something right. Or that she has the right to berate you till you all learn to trim your sails into Hurricane Stormi's hot wind.

hahaha...well said Electroglyph. And one other question, what's 'nom de plume' mean? Sounds cool, just wanted to know the meaning before I rip that line off to a friend...heheh (I like to learn a new word every day.) MD

I don't know for sure, my french isn't very good at all, but I think it's what you would refer to in english as a 'speaking name'.

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"Name of the feather" it's french for pen name. When a Noble wrote fiction or against the crown they assumed a false name or persona to write under.

pen name it is then :)

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I was curious about the commentors in the image in question and all have gallery pages and each seems to have arrived at renderosity about the same time (except for Alvin)and each has six or less images. Is it a strange coincidence? Or did the getting friends to vote hit close to home? I really don't like continuing this issue but I found my curiousity getting the better of me. Sorry to drag this on. Ang

Hey, I have never been in the Hot20, and I expect, never will. I believe it is linked to ratings which I do not permit as I don't believe in rankings.

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ah, I knew that personal artistic mediocrity would keep me out of trouble..;) The nail that sticks out gets hammered back in
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If you make art that pleases you, you're doing fine, if it pleases others, that's just gravy..;) I've never even been to the top 20, chances are, I already had the pics to begin with..there's more to life than the top 20..

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anahl nathrak uth vas betude doth yel dyenvey..;)

Danamo, I meant that, IMHO, comparitively speaking, the so named are way above in concept and excution of their works than Stormi...and that they improve everyday in their artwork, where she(?) seems to be stuck in place....

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My name was probably removed from the sh*t list because I apologized. I always (if you've been around awhile you know this to be true) will apologize for anything that I write that offends someone, EVEN IF I AM IN THE RIGHT. I will do this because I will never ever intentionally offend someone. I was raised to believe that it is never necessary to offend another person. And "an apology doesn't cost a dime, but it can be worth a fortune." (Quoting my Dad). I also will (try) not to continue to spend any more time or energy on this particular issue, because in a month's time (or shorter, these days, LOL) I probably won't even be able to remember it. :^) Last statement about it: If that special someone had brought any of their images to us and posted them here for C & C, they would have been treated with the respect we give everyone in the Forum: we would have told them what was good about the images and offered some good advice on how to improve them. That's the Forum I know and love. I'm not too happy about us all getting smacked with the same tar brush, but it takes all kinds. This was just a kind I hadn't experienced before. Peace out, Tjohn

This is not my "second childhood". I'm not finished with the first one yet.

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Incarnadine: I think the Hot 20 vote button is somewhere under everyone's gallery images, and is there whether you like it or not. You can't see it under your own pics though, Rendo doesn't want you to vote for yourself. :^) Someone correct me if I'm wrong. Please. And in my opinion, some of your stuff deserves to be in the Hot 20.

This is not my "second childhood". I'm not finished with the first one yet.

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Sorry Incarnadine. I just voted for "how real it looks" and "observers". You can't hide;) The rules say you can vote for as many images as you like once every seven days. Almost no one is voting. I have decided to change that, at least for myself. All of you have done works that truely inspire, uplift, or cause me to think. Voting is one way of expressing my appreciation. Unlike ratings, it is all affirmative. There is no such thing as a negative vote in this system. I was the third from the last picked for ball during grade school. That experience still shapes my decisions today. If the concept of voting offends you in this manner, I won't do it anymore. But I would like to vote for your work.

Ang, I really wasn't directly accusing Stormi of the personal voting, I had said some images that 'are or were' still in the Hot 20. In fact, there are numerous images in the last 6 months I've questioned too, and it finally boiled over with me enough to bring it up to everyone's attention. Whether Stormi had assistance in voting or not, that wasn't the basis of my complaint. Although, Stormi took it upon herself to assume I, along with the other fabulous four, were directly peppering her with "insults and lies". Has the whole vote-for-a-friend thing happened before? Sure it probably has, but it just got the best of me at the time because there are some of us that really work to get our images in the Hot 20 only to be costed the opportunity because of voting loopholes. To some, there is life beyond the Hot 20...but to me, it's like getting into a 2-week Hall-of-Fame when you can rank among some of the best. I enjoy having my images displayed next to the people I admire the most...but I was just stating that there have been some images in the Hot 20 'currently or in the past' that I don't exactly believe carry on the Hot 20 definition and tradition. MD

And let me add before anyone else feels the need to list me on their sites, I admire EVERYONE'S work in this forum. But there are a few artists that produce work that is so realistic that it makes my spine tingle when I see it...ocddoug, Alvin, Rochr, Mel3D, Doublecrash, etc...the ones I've looked up to from my beginnings here. But that list is growing every day as we all grow together as artists. I wish Stormi could have been part of that exclusive club, but she chose otherwise. Either way, I'm very impressed to see the interest in this topic...I feel like you've come to support us in a different sort of way. We shouldn't be listed as bad people, just ones that are serious about their work and that strive to be among the best. MD PS...Tjohn, I understand why you apologized, it's very good reasoning and I usually think that same way. But in this case, I really don't want to apologize for something that was purely assumption or speculation. If Stormi wants to talk to me personally about it, I'll listen to anything...but until then, I'm gonna do something out of the ordinary for me and stand my ground on this one.

MD: If you go with your heart, you can't go too far wrong. :^)

This is not my "second childhood". I'm not finished with the first one yet.

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"I'd like to die peacefully in my sleep like my grandfather....not screaming in terror like the passengers on his bus." - Jack Handy

TJ, Very nice quote. :) MD

You people are so disgusting - where do you get off doing this? You were clearly targeting Stormi's work, and it seems you are trying to deny it now, and not succeeding. Stop calling her names, too. Stormi didn't do half of what I would have done to you if I had been the target here, instead. Stormi is a great artist and friend. You people are just not nice.

Janart; apparently you know wich specific thread is causing these problems. Would you be so kind as to provide me with the link so I can have a well informed look and see if we were indeed targeting Stormi's work.

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I have been watching this for a while now, and it's time to speak up. It seems to me we aren't allowed to vote for any illustration unless it shows only technical ability. Artistic ability means nothing here. Well, I have news for you, I'm only voting for the artistically sound illustrations. It says "the artist's community" at the top of the page! Unless they want to change the name of it to something else. I guess if you happen to have a grudge against somebody on Renderosity, all you have to do is vote for them, and then they will get roasted on the Bryce Forum when their "technically imperfect" (in your view) image shows up on the Hot20. What a farce.

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Here ya go Rayraz. MD

We vote for images we like. That's a combination of the ACTUAL VISUAL BEATY of an image AND!!! the ARTISTIC VALUE of the image. Now I personally don't think that a reflective sphere floating over a water plane has any artistic value. I don't know what the actual image is that stormi had in the Hot 20, but usually artistic developement comes with time. It happens to be that technical skill also improves with time. The hot 20 is supposed to be the place where the community places the ABSOLUTE TOP of the artwork produced by it's members. An image with great artistic value, but newbe-ish technical value has a hard time getting up there, but a technically excellent image with no artistic value has THE SAME problem. The absolute top consists of images that where made with BOTH skill and artistic vision. Show me the image and then tell me what it's artistic value is.

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Janart, We take your comments to heart, but it's hard for me to understand why she would dig as low as talking about someone's possible medical condition. That alone is worse than any "offense" any of us may or may not have made the last few days. I'm not trying to spark a new subject, but goodness, I don't think someone needs their name plastered on the Internet with that beside their name. I'm pleased to see that the comments were removed, and maybe this can be a lesson learned by all. In some ways, she was just as much in the wrong. As for Broodingmaniac...we all have our own methods and reasons for why we vote for a certain image. Whether it's technical or artistic. I simply stated in the previous thread that over the last 6 months, I've seen some abuse of the Hot 20 voting system that doesn't make it too fair to the other artists. Outside of that, I really don't have much else to say on this entire subject. MD

thanx for the link MD. I'm reading it now.

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So far I haven't read any names of people that got in the hot20 except for DoubleCrash and even then it was never DoubleCrash who was attacked. So far no personal attacks. Going on I read: stolen pieces of textures, models, and ideas of someone else and then placed together and called "art." First time I'm thinking I missed something. No one mentioned stealing yet. Where does this acusation come from? reading on again: I have asked NO ONE to vote for my illustrations. No one said she did. Neither her name nor her artwork was never mentioned. I'm still having difficulties trying to find out where all this anger is about. Now the thread goes on with people asking politely why Stormi thinks we are attacking her personally. Suddenly I see this: the post in question was pointing out her illustration exactly "as the third and fourth one down" which was undeniably the target Haven't seen that post and also haven't seen anyone stating that that image is directly linked with people who have friends voting for them.

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Hey I'm glad to see Stormi struck back! At least she didn't lay down and just take your abuses. And what about calling her "Sybil" ?? Was that very nice? And what do you call technically challenged? As long as the image was made in Bryce and nothing outstanding in the way of errors, so be it. Just because she didn't use someone elses' work in no way reflects poorly on her images, or anyones. So now you're taking pot shots at Ryan. Ryan put his up as a joke. He's a photographer. Why don't you beastly people go crawl back into your caves where you came from and hybernate for a while?

Looks like some people are on a witchhunt. Where the hell did anyone call anyone Sybil, technically challenged or anything like that? Who's this Ryan? If people can't take a bit of criticism then perhaps they shouldn't post. Now there are some people out there that are just idiots and post BS about an image but I can almost garuantee it's noone in this forum. Most here will give construtive criticism. Lot's of hostility coming from people another post wasn't even directly targeted at.

I'm really confused now. MD

"technically challenged" New terminology not before used it this thread. Please explain out of wich context this came. "And what about calling her "Sybil" ??" I've got no idea, but Sybil doesn't mean anything bad as far as I know, so it's not of any importance. "So now you're taking pot shots at Ryan" Who the F*** is ryan???? "Why don't you beastly people go crawl back into your caves where you came from and hybernate for a while?" I thought you where against personal attacks?

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This is the original thread where this started. Stormi to my knowledge was not named or located in any way. The only indirect reference to the artist that I read in the thread was that it was 3rd or 4th down from Rochr. Villaggio Italiano was in the 4th place when I viewed the list. The charlatan was next. Secrets of the heart and the black pearl have all been on the list in positions 3rd or 4th down from Rochr. The only one to come forward, fists swinging was Stormi. I stayed completely out of this first thread. I got into the second thread and said simply if you dont like the results use your own votes to change them. People have apparently taken this to heart as Stormi has garnered five more votes. She continues to be in the top 20 as others fall. Rather than be content with continued praise from other members and move on, Stormi has posted a stinging diatribe against these people on her homepage. Naming names, even insulting people about their medical conditions. Im sure Doug is not going to treat this kind of speech as a hate crime as it would be recognised under law. Stormi had my sympathy, now I think she has stepped over the line. She had better cool off and think out her next actions carefully.

"acddoug - Doug Martin - he claims to be an "Acute Compulsive Disorder" person - obviously not enough medication! " I've still not seen any link between ocd and this topic. And I've also not seen any apologies towards ocddoug. Ocddoug has never mentioned Stormi or Stormi's work. Not directly and not indirectly. Furthermore ocddoug has made clear several times that he is NOT ATTACKING ANYONE PERSONALLy and that he never mentioned stealing or other things like that. He was only questioning the artistic value of a blank image. He even made sure not to question the artistic abilities of the artist who made that specific image any artist here at 'rosity or elsewhere for that matter. I think an apology is the least thing that can be done. Not only is this whole thing on stormi's site childish and misplaced it's also against the law and I or anyone else for that matter could take legal steps.

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ocddoug made the Sybil comment in post 14. Who's Ryan?

Ryan is Broodingmaniac

Ah, I get it. Rayraz said that reflective spheres over water have no artistic merit and broodingmaniac happens to have an image in his gallery with reflective spheres over water. I guess Rayraz is taking potshots at me too then. :-(

I'm Ryan. Some can sure dish it out, but they can't take it when it comes back to them. I agree with xminus (Evan). Just remember ocddoug was one of those who started all of this. You can't expect to start flinging mud (or in this case, accusations) at someone and not expect some back.

Lol. didn't even know Brooding had a sphere-over water image. Notice how I didn't put 'maniac' after brooding to avoid making a 'personal attack'.

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ROFL!

This is just getting down right funny now. MD

I'm glad you feel that way...laughter is good for all of us. Oh, and Ryan is proud of the "maniac" part - so never fear. He's a funny guy. All you have to do is stop the personal attacks here, and I'm sure things will calm down into the previous R'Osity state.

Nobody is making any personal attacks! From reading the post that started all of this, I think everyone was being very reasonable until Stormi exploded. I still can't figure out what set her off.

In answer to electroglyph and tjohn (and any others concerned) I have never asked anyone to vote for one of my images. I didn't even realize it was possible! (learn something every day!) BTW, thank you, I am flattered.

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Janart, it would be great for Renderosity to return to that state, but I have to agree with antevark, I really don't see how it got started other than at that time point. MD

Wow, this has gone way to far! All because of a comment about nothing at all (literally--that's what DC's image was: nothing, a blank black rectangle). Which, Stefano, I still like! Let's just move on.

this is what I think..... I think that this is getting a little crazed here on both sides. If Stormi (and others)can't handle our discussions here in the Bryce forum, then so be it. Nobody here is forcing them to stick around. I hate to make that kind of a statement but lets all face it,,,, there isn't a light at the end of the tunnel for this discussion, and I can;t think of any way to calm down anybodies nerves. As far as those remarks made about certain people (and this entire community) by Stormi on her site..... as much as I (and others) may object, there is really nothing that can be done about them, except legal action. And if you are going to do that, then do it. What I'm suggesting here, is that we all just take a few deep breaths, just forget about anything said, except whatever progress we made in our hot20 discussion, and get on with things. Anybody else agree???? peace, brholte (Benjamin Ross Holte)

I read the other thread and I did not see any reference to this Stormi anywhere. The only thing that comes to mind about why she attacked the people who wrote in that thread was because they made reference to cheating by a member, (unnamed), and she decided it was she who was being talked about. If that is the case it's a bit like she took it to heart because she knew it to be true, not because she was named directly. If my asumption is wrong then I appologise but this sort of flaming is in very bad taste. As for what she wrote about occdougs state of health, that is an attrocious thing to say about anyone and as far as medication is concerned perhaps she should see a doctor herself and get some Prozac to chill her out a bit. I love this forum and the people in it and if someone can't get on with the majority then they can go back from whence they came as far as I'm concerned. This sort of thing just makes me damned angry. Catlin

Benjamin, I agree. Life is too short, and I've got Brycing to do... Regards, Michael

I was the one who mentioned "sybil," after I saw the below-the-belt comment about me and OCD (or ACD, whatever the hell that is) and medication. It's a bit sad when someone admits something personal like a mental disorder, and it is used against him in an argument that has nothing to do with it. Anyway, I've about had enough of this silly shit, and so I agree with brholte. I'm going back to my world of Bryce ;-) Doug

And on a lighter note, here's my version of the reflective disc over water.............hehehe 8)

That would make a cool nose ring catlin ;)

Hi I've just read the other thread and well it seemed a reasonable discussion then wam! sound like someone was just having a bad day, you know the one where every little thing seems to get to you. I had a similar thing last year with my boss I lost my 'rag' at somethings she said about me she took me into the office we agreed about something agreed to differ on others now we get along fine. as to the web site I have not seen it yet as the 'flash' stuff was taking too long to load over my connection (very good but not on dial up 56k ish) I also agreethat DC's pic was probably voted for because amongst other things the Irony or sardonic humor 'tickled' a few people I know it does me! Heck He might even win the turner prize for it and in my opinion if he did he would be far more worthy given his other images than the 'clowns' (again my opinion) who have won it in the past I would not call any of it ART sorry . anyway have fun adn the best way to deal with destructive or unhelpful critisim is sahke your head and laugh, don't decend to the level of name calling. Dave

LOL.... As I remember that thread starting out, the only one whose name came up and whose image was targeted was Doublecrash's WMD pic.... What in the hell is this Stormi talking about??????? No posts were deleted. I read through them all that I read through the other day and they all are still there. I didn't see her name or names of her art posted in that thread. So what in the hell is she talking and whining and complaining about. I think that she needs to take some anti-depressents and come out of her poor me, people are picking on me mode. Wasn't anyone here that said anything about her or her art in that thread. Poor Stormi. Too bad she thinks the world is out to get her. sigh Quite childish if I must say so. But I must say I feel honored to be in the company of the fabulous four though... lol 8)

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I wasn't delirious at all when I said "thanks to all for the serious discussion that went on in the other thread while I was out." Being interested personally in that thread, I've read it carefully a couple of times, from top to bottom. And the only (nick)name named was mine, there were no insults in it, the discussion was fair, and everybody has interesting points worth further treatment. For what I remember (and I remember well), nobody attacked nor me nor Stormi personally. I IMed Stormi today asking her to change her opinion and come back to Rosity, but frankly I still had not seen the really bad comment about Doug on her website. As my friend Drac would say, "this sucks donkey gonads." I'm with Benjamin on this: maybe we all should take a couple of de-ep aaaah-breeee-aths and go back Brycing some. To help the Forum find again its tranquility, I decided to gave you another 1-second masterwork (you can see it above... and this time is INDEED to make you smile :)). Stefano

Oh Stefano this is a masterpiece.....................can I vote for it................lol 8)

Stefano, Thanks for the smile! Michael

ROFLMAO @ Catlin

LOL Catlin...too funny.

"Think Pink!"...try and stop me!.. ------- Not only is it odd that a complete newbi has a mediocre work in the hot20 but they are being championed by a cross fertilized group of other newbies who relentlessly bang on about fictitious slanders made against the reputedly Professional Artist, in spite ( at last the expression fits! ) of the evidence. There were plenty of friendly overtures made in the previous thread to placate the offended one, however!, it seems that the Stormi-Troopers must assassinate members of this forum in order to appease Her that will not be placated. The mealy mouthed high dudgeon being thrown at the four accused culprits sounds like a symptom of the guilty consciences shared by a clack caught in the act of excessive fawning amongst themselves and in a witless conspiracy to uplift an image beyond its merit.....there again! I might be wrong?... RUN! for the hills....the newbies are revolting!....

Funny...I feel so calm, and warm all of a sudden! Ever since I looked at Stefano's "pink render" all I want to do is hug people! Stefano, how could you do this to me!!

Funny...I feel so calm, and warm all of a sudden! Ever since I looked at Stefano's "pink render" all I want to do is hug people! Stefano, how could you do this to me!!

Damn, now I'm starting to repeat myself!

i just saw this thread... man! geeeezzzz aint some people just a little bit touchy... anyway MAddog, Occdoug, Tjohn Dnamo and loates.... i know these people. been with them in the forums and i havent even ONCE seen them start and insult thread just to start an insult parade... i dunno why this has even to happen but im glad that its boiling down.... to stormi: i will apologize for any misunderstanding that you got... im pretty sure it was not intentional... i know these people and they are not like that... this is the worlds friendliest forum and the most helpful too, believe me, ive post from other sites and bryce forum at r'sity is the best to the others: well back to brycing guys! no need to let this go on further, storms ending (no pun intended) and everythings back to normal again... just makin peace... eyecon

cracking up....

Can we not call people, "newbies". I hate that term.

Dreams are just nightmares on prozac...
Digital WasteLanD

flak, you're not a gamer are you... lol

No, then he'd be impartially calling everyone "n00bs". :D

hugs* I need them after this! OT- today is my 19th wedding anniversary, didn't hear a word from my husband, I'm guessing he spent the day trying to keep his nervous girlfriend happy. Ain't life wonderful. Anyways, life goes on and I'm whipped after working 13 hrs. I want hugs (going back now to look at the pretty pink pic). :-D As a side note, I had a funny revelation because of all this. I'd always worried about missing my stuff if it somehow made it into the top 20, ROLFMAO I realized that I never check the box that allows people to vote for me, I even once forgot to allow comments, boy was that a bummer. Peace people and yes we are a bit of a family here but we are always welcoming newcomers in. So I just want to say to any lurkers come on in, introduce yourself, and become a part of our happy family. We really do like each other.

I first came across the word on some RPG newsgroups (I think....), and didn't like the way it was used as almost a put down, so thats why i just don't like it. But thats just my experience... not saying thats how it's always used.

Dreams are just nightmares on prozac...
Digital WasteLanD

Hmm... n00b...[sarcasm]now there's an improvement[/sarcasm] LOL

Dreams are just nightmares on prozac...
Digital WasteLanD

Lol.... I love the "Pink" image DC.... I am in full agreement with you EYECON. I am back to Brycin' and much happier for it. Stormi: I will reiterate what EYECON said... MAddog, Ocddoug, Tjohn Danamo and Mloates are harmless people. They would never intentionally make statements that would be hurtful to anyone. I am sorry that there was something said that you felt was directed at you, but I assure you that these guys didn't and wouldn't do something hurtful like that. I have been in a couple of other forums as well and there are some pretty harsh replies sometimes. The peeps here in the Bryce forum are some of the friendliest you will find. They are all a bunch of good people that are willing and wanting to help others understand how to use and push Bryce to its limits and to share new techniques they have discovered. Hope you won't let a little misunderstanding keep you away. However, it is your choice. I just know that these guys wouldn't purposely make hurtful remarks to you or anyone else. They are great guys; once you got to know them you would say the same thing. For what it's worth. 8) ~ Swade ~

There are 10 kinds of people: Those who know binary, and those who don't. 

A whiner is about as useful as a one-legged man at an arse kicking contest.

hey flak, how come you;re not in MIRC right now?

or the bryce chat, nobody ever goes there any more :(

Here is a big HUG for ya Ang. 8)

There are 10 kinds of people: Those who know binary, and those who don't. 

A whiner is about as useful as a one-legged man at an arse kicking contest.

Thanks Swade!!

Here's a hug from me, Angela. I hope your tomorrow is a better day!

Thanks mloates, you guys are making me feel warm and fuzzy! hugs are platonic so girl hugs are welcome too!

Here's a hug from me too Ang!

Thanks Dan! I'm gonna sleep good tonight.

Thanks to all that were in support of us! I'm glad others are seeing our side of the story! At least most of you know we're harmless people. :) That said, all the comments were deleted off of that Web site, so I consider everything to be in the past now. Wow this had made for a long couple of days! MD PS...Ang if I could give ya a hug, I would! ;)

Well, I do believe this thread's been hi-jacked... hugs

Okie doke. Lots has been said back and forth, more so than I should have seen earlier and put a stop to. Intentional or not, feelings have been hurt on "both" sides, lets all just try to go to the opposite side of our rings for a while and cool down. Thanks. AgentSmith

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