Jumpstartme2 opened this issue on Aug 18, 2003 ยท 53 posts
Jumpstartme2 posted Mon, 18 August 2003 at 10:59 PM
Please post your name here. For those who do not mind what happens to your images, please do not post here..this is for the community members who really care about our artwork and what happens to it, and to each other.
~Jani
Renderosity Community Admin
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KAP posted Mon, 18 August 2003 at 11:25 PM
I have been bitchin about this for along time now, the best solution I found is this...don't post to the internet...If someone wants your images bad enough they will find a way to get it...you can code, you can disable stuff till your blue in the face...All for nothing....because you can't really defeat photoshop and the print screen key. I care about my work, I care about everyone elses work on this fine site...I just do not see how your gonna "lock" the images....so to me it's like trying to convince a republican the Iraqi war was wrong...it just can't be done.
Jumpstartme2 posted Mon, 18 August 2003 at 11:46 PM
Even tho you claim to care about your images and everyone elses, I see the same thing in your post that I have been bitching about myself. This thread is not for those wishing to spread the news that "either do not post your images to the net, or live with the fact they will be stolen" type replies. I've seen enough of those type posts to last me a life time. I did not post this to become a flame fest. Im asking for names here, those names who would like to be notified that their work might have been stolen or taken without permission, if it is seen on other websites. Mods: If this post is in the wrong forum, feel free to move it to the proper forum :) Thanx! ~Jani
~Jani
Renderosity Community Admin
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jeweldragon posted Mon, 18 August 2003 at 11:51 PM
i would like to be notified i think its a wonderful idea that someone cares enough to look out for someone else
Jumpstartme2 posted Mon, 18 August 2003 at 11:55 PM
Gotcha JD :D Oh! I will be keeping track of all names put into this thread..or any other threads I see of those wishing for this type of 'backup'..will post the names right here on my post-it board by my computer ;)
~Jani
Renderosity Community Admin
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jeweldragon posted Tue, 19 August 2003 at 12:00 AM
ok sounds awesome :)
creativechaos posted Tue, 19 August 2003 at 12:05 AM
Trust me, I've been working on building a website, and trying to figure out how to safeguard my images from theft...then I realized places like renderosity, 3d commune and poser pros don't have safeguards...and the print screen button sucks sometimes too LOL If there's a way though, I'm definitly interested in it.
Remember...getting lost is the senic route to the eventual destination. (And a lot prettier than the straight road)
Jumpstartme2 posted Tue, 19 August 2003 at 12:15 AM
Putting your name on the list Serpentis :) Altho there is no sure fire way {as of yet} of protecting images from being taken, we can def. let one another know when images are stolen, and where they are, and who took them. We need to make some positive steps forward in order to come to some sort of solution for this horrible situation that hardworking artists find themselves in. I like to say "You always learn to walk before you learn to run" ;)
~Jani
Renderosity Community Admin
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_Tamela_ posted Tue, 19 August 2003 at 12:19 AM
I would like to be notified. Please! Thank you very much! :O) ~Tamela
Jumpstartme2 posted Tue, 19 August 2003 at 12:39 AM
Got'cha too Tamela ;)
~Jani
Renderosity Community Admin
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_Tamela_ posted Tue, 19 August 2003 at 12:42 AM
Thank you, Jani! :O)
Kendra posted Tue, 19 August 2003 at 1:20 AM
I'm in. I'm always watching out too.
...... Kendra
miyu posted Tue, 19 August 2003 at 2:53 AM
I would definately wanna be on this list.
Wladamire posted Tue, 19 August 2003 at 5:04 AM
sure count me in tho i havent updated gallery in ages hehe
jenay posted Tue, 19 August 2003 at 5:30 AM
he - if there is such a list, count me in. (but i am not sure if my work is good enough to be stolen ... ) ;) jk
FyreSpiryt posted Tue, 19 August 2003 at 6:33 AM
You probably won't find any of my art out there, but I'd like to go on the list. Be aware I'm fairly easy about giving permission if someone asks, so please contact me before the person with the image. (I imagine that's what you're going to do anyway, but I want to make sure.)
ivyroses posted Tue, 19 August 2003 at 7:48 AM
I would like to be notified as well. =) Probably wont find much of my stuff out there but if you do I would like to know about it.
Ravnheart posted Tue, 19 August 2003 at 7:50 AM
Please add me to the list as well. I think what your doing is fatastic. The more people looking the better chances there are of getting most of it taken down. Thank you for looking out of other artist:)
lavender posted Tue, 19 August 2003 at 9:50 AM
I haven't posted any art yet, but I do have some writings up that I would want to know if they showed up elsewhere, and the same goes for any art I might theoretically post in the future..
atom1972 posted Tue, 19 August 2003 at 9:53 AM
Please add me too. I have been looking out for it too, but there is just so much to go through.
Daio posted Tue, 19 August 2003 at 12:08 PM
In the unlikely event someone should steal some of my art, I would like to know about it. But, like FyreSpiryt said, please contact me first as I have given permission to some of my friends to display my art on their websites or as part of their website design. Daio
"Do not meddle in the affairs of cats, for they are subtle and will piss on your computer." -- Bruce Graham
JohnRender posted Tue, 19 August 2003 at 12:40 PM
Heck, if you can find a way to protect images, then add me to that list. As far as I'm aware, there is no known way to protect an image from being downloaded. Disable right-click? Disable caching to the local hard drive? Displaying the image in a custom viewer? All of these methods are defeated by a simple screen capture program (or hitting the "Screen Print" button) and, if needed, a little stitching in Photoshop. Not to rain on anyone's parade, but as long as an image is displayed to a user, then it can be "stolen". All these "security" methods do is piss off the casual user who uses right-click for navigation or who doesn't want to download the "Bondware Viewer" to see images.
Lon Chaney posted Tue, 19 August 2003 at 2:16 PM
I have my images stolen from time to time. Dale Williams was the last guy to rip off a couple my images. He did a lousy job of covering my sig too. These bozos always get found out. The images posted on the net are to low rez to do anything with any way. Keep you original 3d files and if they ever try to make ant money off your work sue the crap out of them. Other than that don't post on the internet if your worried about theft. Personaly I really don't worry about it much.
CryptoPooka posted Tue, 19 August 2003 at 2:21 PM
It's funny in a way that where all electronic protection measures fail, the old fashioned "community watchdog" approach seems to be the best one out there. And even in the event that a better digital solution is found, someone is going to be finding a way around that solution. Yep, count me in.
Stormrage posted Tue, 19 August 2003 at 3:10 PM
Count me in
Jumpstartme2 posted Tue, 19 August 2003 at 5:30 PM
Gotcha all :) Just to let everyone know, I will ALWAYS contact the original artist first. From that point it is up to said original artist to do what they wish to do. Just watching backs here ;) The more people looking the better chances there are of getting most of it taken down. Truer words were never spoken ;) Im glad to have gotten such a positive feedback on this. This is what 'being a community' is all about :D ~Jani
~Jani
Renderosity Community Admin
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sirkrite posted Tue, 19 August 2003 at 6:29 PM
You can add me to that list. :)
hmatienzo posted Tue, 19 August 2003 at 8:46 PM
Add me, too, not that mine are even worth stealing...
L'ultima fòrza è nella morte.
larissad posted Tue, 19 August 2003 at 10:20 PM
Please add me to that list:)
kawecki posted Wed, 20 August 2003 at 4:39 AM
This two statement cannot exclude each other: "..this is for the community members who really care about our artwork and what happens to it, and to each other." Yes, I am "For those who do not mind what happens to your images, please do not post here" Yes, I also don't care too much. I only don't want any kind of restrictions for downloading. I don't care if people use my pictures for wallpaper, private colections, etc, or any kind of fair use. If someone post somewhere without my permission, this is not theft, I don't lose nothing, I still have my pictures and also the related pz3. If someone sell my pictures, is very stupid who buy them, why he pay for something that can be downloaded for free? If you wish, you can add me to the list, I just only curious about who uses my pictures.
Stupidity also evolves!
pierrecolat posted Wed, 20 August 2003 at 3:52 PM
What a silly thread
Jumpstartme2 posted Wed, 20 August 2003 at 9:49 PM
Kawecki, What you would consider is not image theft, is not what all other people here would think. They want to let everyone know that their images are not for purposely downloading without permission. I will not be on the lookout for 'popularity' or those images who's owners are just curious to see who uses them. As you stated, you do not care who downloads your images, or what they do with them. If you had stated you wanted to know who has your images without permission, and wanted to be notified if your images were found so you could take further action..then I would add you to the list. Pierrecolat: This thread might be seen as silly for some, but its not to others. At least now we are beginning to see that there are indeed some artists here who do NOT think its ok to take images without asking permission, and I see that as a very positive step. To the rest of ya, Got your names on the list ;) ~Jani
~Jani
Renderosity Community Admin
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GonWaki posted Thu, 21 August 2003 at 3:56 AM
Please add me to the list as well. Thanks
TerraDreamer posted Thu, 21 August 2003 at 9:12 AM
Google has within it's own database over 3 BILLION web pages. Now, if only one percent of those pages are artwork related... You're going to be quite busy, sounds like you've gotten yourself into a 24/7/365 job. You wrote: "They want to let everyone know that their images are not for purposely downloading without permission." They give me permission whether they like it or not every time I view them. Each and every one of their images, including the page I'm typing upon now, are stored within a folder called temporary internet files. Personally, I feel you're providing a false sense of security to people here. Are you saying that you will guarantee the safety of artist images, all because of the due diligence of your newly, self-imposed policemanship? Good luck.
Jumpstartme2 posted Fri, 22 August 2003 at 1:22 AM
Personally, I feel you're providing a false sense of security to people here False sense of security?? How?? by telling people that there are those of us out there who will let them know if their images are found out there on another site?? Are you saying that you will guarantee the safety of artist images, all because of the due diligence of your newly, self-imposed policemanship? I NEVER said I was making a guarentee on anything. Get a grip. Altho I haven't been to the other forum yet..I have the sneaky suspicion you have TerraDreamer.. by this comment here..self-imposed policemanship If you haven't, then please accept my apology.
~Jani
Renderosity Community Admin
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Kendra posted Fri, 22 August 2003 at 11:22 AM
"They want to let everyone know that their images are not for purposely downloading without permission."
I guess I'm not fully aware of the reasons for this thread. I wanted to clarify that I posted to say I look out for images used improperly. I have no problem with someone using anything of mine for a wallpaper or included in a personal only screensaver. (xp has one that scrolls through your "my pictures" file)
...... Kendra
Jumpstartme2 posted Fri, 22 August 2003 at 12:01 PM
Maybe I do need to rephrase that..sorry Kendra. ;) Didn't mean it to sound as if anyone here objected to their images being used. Just that artists would like to be notified about their images being found on other sites without their permission.
~Jani
Renderosity Community Admin
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Marcs-ArtworkStudio posted Sat, 23 August 2003 at 10:05 AM
I most definately wold like to be notified if my images are found on other sites without my permission. Best regards Marc.
Jumpstartme2 posted Sat, 23 August 2003 at 12:35 PM
Goth'cha ;)
~Jani
Renderosity Community Admin
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EricofSD posted Sat, 23 August 2003 at 7:34 PM
I think everyone would want to know if their image was stolen unless they specifically said it was a give away. How about a checkbox on upload where the artist can select one of three options.. 1. Copyright protected, do not use for any purpose. 2. Private use for desktop and personal screensavers ok, all other uses reserved by copyright. 3. Public domain, do as you like. That way the folks who really want a pic may find several public domain images to chose from. Maybe if there is a public domain genre?
Jumpstartme2 posted Sat, 23 August 2003 at 10:11 PM
I think that is a great idea! Altho the way things are going, some people would take it no matter what was written.. :( but still, its a good idea :)
~Jani
Renderosity Community Admin
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zackm17 posted Sun, 24 August 2003 at 8:43 AM
sure count me in, I sure non of my stuff will ever be outthere, but its good to know that someone if looking out for it.
Jumpstartme2 posted Sun, 24 August 2003 at 12:01 PM
Another one on the note board ;)
~Jani
Renderosity Community Admin
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kayjay97 posted Sun, 24 August 2003 at 6:16 PM
Well, I KNOW none of mine is good enough to be taken but add me to the list too :)
In a world filled with causes for worry and
anxiety...
we need the peace of God standing guard over our hearts and
minds.
Jerry McCant
Jumpstartme2 posted Mon, 25 August 2003 at 12:50 AM
snicker ok, I got'cha too ;) You peeps that think your art isn't worth taking, just remember, beauty is in the eye of the beholder..I used to think mine couldn't possibly be wanted either...I found out different ;)
~Jani
Renderosity Community Admin
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Incarnadine posted Wed, 27 August 2003 at 4:11 PM
On these terms, yes I am interested. I have works posted in the compuserve graphics forum, renderotica and gay poser art sites as well as here at renderosity. Thanks. Richard
Pass no temptation lightly by, for one never knows when it may pass again!
Phesix posted Wed, 27 August 2003 at 10:47 PM
This is a wonderful idea and I most definately would like to be notified if my images are found on other sites without my permission! Put me on, I would definately wanna be on this list! :) What I wanna know is how do you find out if ya images are being stolen?
Jumpstartme2 posted Thu, 28 August 2003 at 2:32 AM
The only way right now of finding out if your images are being stolen, is by someone looking around on the net, and finding them, and notifying you of it. There are other ways I guess, like if you sign up with those offering digital watermarks..such as Digimark..but I beleive you have to check on it yourself..sort of like bring an image to attention..not sure about that tho, so dont quote me on it ;) Best way is still the old fashioned way tho..having people care about others artwork enough to actually dig around on the net looking for it..;)
~Jani
Renderosity Community Admin
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Seven Wolves posted Sat, 30 August 2003 at 9:20 PM
Heck yeah, if someone sees anything of mine anywhere without a direct link back to me or the 'Rosity site, I would LOOOOOOOOOOOOOVE to know.
pierrecolat posted Wed, 03 September 2003 at 4:45 AM
I still think that this thread maked no sense. Why a list? Are you saying that if you notice an image been used illegally by someone not on the list that you will not inform them? And if this is not the case, why a list? If I see someones work being used illegally I will inform them. I don't need to be on a list to do this.
JurgenDoe posted Wed, 03 September 2003 at 1:39 PM
If you can find a way to protect images go ahead and add me to the list :)
Strength Is Life, Weakness Is Death
Azraelll posted Wed, 03 September 2003 at 11:19 PM
list me:)
Jumpstartme2 posted Sun, 14 September 2003 at 2:50 AM
Are you saying that if you notice an image been used illegally by someone not on the list that you will not inform them? Ummm...nooooo, I am not saying that.. Im sure there are others who would like to have their images watched for who don't frequent the forums..but for those who do, a list of people that want their images watched for makes perfect sense..for one thing it lets the 'snaggers' out there who might join 'Rosity simply for harvesting images to post elsewhere as their own, that these images are being watched for..hopefully causing them to think twice before taking said images... I'm sure these 'snaggers' read the threads..;) Its not the best defence by far..but at least its better than doing absolutely nothing. You don't have to join the list to be watched out for, or even to watch out for others..but isn't it nice to know now exactly who wants their works reported if found elswhere, and who doesn't? SW, GA, and Azraelll..got'cha ;)
~Jani
Renderosity Community Admin
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