I just read a post that included at that bottom a request that the Judy-bashers not clutter up the thread with more dissing of Judy, and it struck a chord. I happen to like Judy, and I have a proposal. I'll be opening a new Poser site soon, and I'd love to have a special gallery devoted to what people have done with Judy. I've seen some great Judy variants over the months, scattered through the forum threads, and I know there's good stuff available. Here's the proposal: I'll set aside a gallery area. You submit your Judy developments, in a jpg of no more than 500 X 500 (The site will be optimized for 600x800), along with your name or handle, your URL if you like, any details like where the dress, texture, etc., came from. I'll select and post from them, using the data for credit lines. Minimal post work, please, because the idea is to show how Judy can look without a layer of Photoshop. Any interest? Reply here or email judyproj@dancingbadger.com Mick