Poser Artist is now available by electronic download from the Curious Labs webstore, with boxed product available both direct and through local resellers in early October.

Curious Labs, Inc. rolls out this new product name and future plans for the Poser 4 technology with Poser Artist. The Poser 4 technology, still widely requested and used by artists new to the 3D world and Academic Institutions teaching art, especially in K through 12 classes will benefit from the continued availability of the Poser 4 technology within Poser Artist. Poser Artist will continue with new technology updates for this new division of Poser throughout the upcoming years ahead. And upgrades from Poser Artist to Poser 5 will be made available.

If you already own Poser 4, you will not benefit from Poser Artist. You would rather benefit from a Poser 5 Upgrade which will offer the many new features and content available.

Kind regards,
Katherine

Hehe I GOTTA ask... Doesn't this belong in PS? Still haven't quite understood what "Poser Artist" is. Is it just a new name for P4? or PPP?

With all the merchants having to move threads to Product Showcase shouldn't this be too? glad Artist is available, maybe I can now get poser 4 er Artist cheap. If I create something in Artist will Poser 4/5 users have problems opening files with a messege? or is this just like having Poser 4.03?

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I agree. In all fairness to all parties, this post belongs in Product Showcase.

I have to agree. Either commercial posts are allowed or they aren't. Currently it's only excluding Renderosity merchants.

'In all fairness to all parties, this post belongs in Product Showcase' I'm sorry, but I have to disagree with everyone above. Poser is the base program that everyone in this forum has in common and an announcement of a new version is of interest to every forum user. I'm not in favor of touting products in here, but this is something of an event. And before anyone asks, yes, I think an annoucement of the DAZ|SAtudio beta realease would belong in here too. These are not 'optional extras'. These are the basic tools we all use. Having said that, I couldn't give a flying FAQ about Poser Artist. It's of no interest whatsoever to me. But if it keeps CL above the poverty-line and gives them an impetus to (Gasp! Shock! Horror!) work on some Poser 4 fixes, it'll be worth it. Respect to all who differ in opinion mac

Pretty please, move this thread.

GET A LIFE PEOPLE. Sheesh. I agree with Maclean. Whiners. :(

and who is to define what an "essential product" is? Some may argue that M3 would be an essential product in the near future...but the M3 threads were booted too. But I personally think people should get over this witch hunt of which thread should and should not be allowed here. It is ridiculous. Let all the posts stay, and let the moderators do as THEY will...everyone else can just butt out. (btw....I read Draz's comment as tongue-in-cheek...to point out the irony...but thats just how I saw it) Rawnrr

Whiners??! The Rules have been established, there was a recent post that the rules were going to be enforced. I hate being called names, don't you? I am so sick to death of the attacks, personal pointing of fingers, rule breaking and eiletist attitude when there is no need. I'm completely offended, I think I'll just go away and then you won't have to hear me bitch and whine and you can be all happy and gleeful. I'm done, life is way to damn short for this crap.

Rawnrr, my comment was indeed intended as a sarcastic poke ;)

"Poser Artist is now available by electronic download from the Curious Labs webstore" - and what a mess that store is. I can't see Poser Artist, but if I knew German I could buy Poser 4 for 99 Euros, apparently.

"I couldn't give a flying FAQ about Poser Artist" Quote of the week. :) Ok, I disagree, because of the way the other merchants have been booted off here for announcing their own commercial products. In truth, I think none of them should have been moved, but there you go. It seems simple enough to me. The thread was an announcement directly related to the release of a commercial product, so it should be moved from here. And no, I'm not gonna sulk if it isn't, I would merely like to see a little fairness here.

Oh boy! Can't we all just have our opinions without arm-wrassling and name-calling. 'and who is to define what an "essential product" is?' Well asked, rawnrr. I'd say 'essential' covers the company who makes that software that every single person in this forum uses. I take your point about Mike, but I don't have any version of Mike at all, and have no intention of purchasing him. I'm not saying the Mike threads should be booted. I read them myself. Just that they don't apply to the entire community. I reckon a CL thread does. And just to take up another point, it's not so long ago that many people in this community were howling because 'CL doesn't post here, and they don't listen to the users anymore'. Well, now they've posted and nobody likes it? What is THAT about??? mac

PS And if Drax can see a bit of humor in the situation, that should teach us all a lesson. LOL. mac

This is/was the "POSER" forum or did I click the wrong link. It isn't the DAZ etc. etc. etc. forum or is it?

"Well, now they've posted and nobody likes it? What is THAT about???" I'd say it was perfectly consistent with the overall philosophy of the Poser forum.

The thread was an announcement directly related to the release of a commercial product, so it should be moved from here' Hmmm..... well, I didn't hear anyone complaining when they were announcing Poser 5 on this forum. It may be related to a commercial product, but as I pointed out, there isn't one of us who doesn't use that product. It's not like it's an option. If you're a member of the Poser Forum, (in theory) you need to have a copy of Poser. The announcement of a new Poser product concerns us all. (Well.... a rehashed poser product in a shiny new box, and probably costing less than we all paid for it) mac

LOL@dialyn. mac

I looked at the CL site and seems they are spinning P4 as "Artist" since all it's features are what P4 is and does/did. So it looks like P4 is now got a cool "New" name and a low price. As for the rest of it I could care less where they post it. since I've pretty much had my fill of all this hype and holier than thou/ real 3d artists. CL is attemptinng to save their Backsides. good luck!

Gee what have I started? I DID write "hehe".....

well I have to agree.this is product placement,maybe I'll post an ad in here today.

"Hmmm..... well, I didn't hear anyone complaining when they were announcing Poser 5 on this forum." Actually they did Mac, however they were told then by the Mods that anything Curious Labs announces about the Poser Product belongs here in the Poser Forum. This is the Poser Forum! It is not the Daz Forum, it belong to all that use Poser. When Daz gets there Daz/Studio out then I'm sure they will get a Forum here too and can announce what they want there. Just like E-on does in the Vue Forum. The software provider of the Forum is relevant to that Forum.

M3 essential? Okay, try this. Open Poser and tell me you need M3 to do that. Now try to open M3 without Poser. 'Nuff said, okay? It's our core platform and will be until such time (if ever) that Studio is released. So people, GET A LIFE AND MOVE ON. All of your wonderful products are useless without the software to run them, understand?

Let me make myself perfectly clear... I have no objection to CL announcing their Shiny New Product/Emperor's New Clothes in this forum, so long as ... Other merchants are given the same privelege. There has been a lot of controversy recently about what is acceptable here, and as far as my poor aging grey matter can make out, directly plugging a "for sale" product in this forum is a great big fat hairy no-no. Neftis got his/her thread moved because it was deemed commercial, and likewise most if not all the M3 related threads. So, let's see some even handedness here.

Well, If other merchants create the product this forum is ABOUT then they can post all they want. And Dialyn...this forum is made up of different people. Some object to certain things, others don't, AND THEY'RE NOT THE SAME PEOPLE. There's no inconsistancy.

I agree with sam all or none fair is fair

Sirkrite, OK, you're right about DAZ announcing here. I take back my comment on that. I guess if DAZ could announce here, then anyone should be able to. But I still think CL should be able to. Spit, I understood dialyn's comment to be sarcasm. Maybe wrongly, but I thought she was pointing out the wild mood swings of this community towards certain topics. If not, I laughed at the wrong thing.... but I got a laugh out it anyway, which is always beneficial. mac mac

First, I want to say I no interest in Poser Artist, whatever forum it's announced in. I have P4/PPP. Second, my opinions over what should or shouldn't be in the Product Showcase have nothing to do with this statement(I couldn't care less about the PS, btw). Third, the is the POSER forum. It's about POSER. Announcements from the company that sells POSER should indeed be allowed in here. Without the Poser company, there is no Poser forum.

Hi I agree that this 'witch hunt' is getting stupid... but... in my opinion I like the 'format' ie CL has put up 1 and 1 only anouncement thread and it should be left at that. The same should be also true for the other people who post products a single message anoucement then the thread is locked that way we get to see whats new and you don't get massive threads with every other frame showing of the product from a different angle , view etc. I for one like to see what people/companies are doing and not have to go looking for adverts. Dave (just an idea!)

btw Thanks for the announcement CL ;-)

well, I clicked on this thread in the poser forum, but suddenly fing myself in the product showcase forum, talk about strange timing :) so, now I'm at a loss on a proper response, don't want to take the thread off topic for whichever forum I'll be in when I hit the reply button

Wether the original question regarding the location of this post was meant in jest or not, the question itself is relevant. Yes, this is the Poser Forum. We all understand that it revolves around Poser. We also understand that 'commercial' posts have been removed from this forum, and moved to Product Showcase, where they (in most opinions) belong. Therefore, this announcement, regardless of where it came from, being a commercial announcement, belongs in Product Showcase. Why? Because they are trying to sell Poser to people who don't HAVE it. This announcement is of little to no importance to people who USE Poser, which is supposed to be the focus of this Forum. Were this an announcement about Poser 5 SR4, then certainly, post it here. That's important to current Poser 5 users. Had it come from someone other than Curious Labs, I might also have let it slide, as it would likely be a Poser user keeping us informed of current events. However, as I stated, this is a product release announcement coming directly from the vendor. It is therefore a commercial, and therefore, by the logic set forth by Renderosity, belongs in Product Showcase. I too dislike being called names, and try to refrain from doing so to others. This is not a 'whine', this is a desire to see rules leveled equally among all, regardless of who you happen to be. I wouldn't care if DAZ released Studio tomorrow...the official announcement would belong in Product Showcase. If Microsoft bought out CL and DAZ and integrated every product currently in both stables into Windows XP Advanced Server 2005 Second Edition Plus, wonderful. Annoucement from Microsoft goes to Product Showcase. I don't advertise here, nor do many other merchants. Everyone, or no one, make a decision and stick to it. Period. CT

Hey everyone, Thank you CL for posting this excellent news :) Hey everyone - thanks to you also for your input - I was away fixing dinner, so could not move the thread from the Poser Forum to the Showcase Forum until now ;] Thanks for your understanding! Sincerely, ladynimue

Chrome Tiger, Very well put. I'm almost inclined to reverse my opinion and agree with you. I can see the logic of differentiating between a product and a service release, which I hadn't thought on. But in the end, I still believe it should have been left in the poser forum as being of general interest to every Poser user. No matter. It's been moved by a MOD, so that's their decision. I'm not much into name-calling either. I can live with people who disagree with me. It's no big hardship. LOL. cheers to all mac

PS Ladynimue - How dare you go off and fix dinner?? LOL. Deserting your post is a capital offence and punishable by banishment to the OT forum. mac

Sorry mac ... I confess that sometimes other-non-cyber things just get in the way of our Mod Duties - Hope you can forgive us ;] ladynimue

I forgive you. Just as long as this eating doesn't become a habit. Once a week is more than enough for MODs. mac

".........general interest to every Poser user." every product I make fall in that catagory- hehehe I wish :)

So Katherine......can you tell if the dang thing will interface with Vue d'Esprit? Sorry to be a broken record about this, but I'm tired of waiting for Eon or CL to get it done in P5.

The beta of Vue 4.2 is available (check the Vue forum). It imports Poser 5 pz3

Thanks Spit! I'll check it out.

Thankjs spit :) better news than Artist anyway....

Curious_Labs; ever get the feeling that coming to Rendo these days is kinda like 'feeding the piranhas'? Your lucky if you still have all ten digits after clicking "Post Reply"!!

hmmmmm..One..Two...Three...Four...Five...Six...Seven...Eight...Nine..... ...... ????...!!!! HEY!!! Which One Of YOU......!!!?!

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Sorry, igohigh, that was me - I was trying to follow Dr Geep's hand posing tutorial and broke Vicky's finger, so since you have (er had) such elegant digits....

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Why dont they release poser 3 again and call it "poser kindergarden" :-/