You might guess who is going to get these... These were actually fun to do, until I got to the laces. I've done laced-up shoes before, so I no about the problems (like the tongue and the lace-holes), but the only way I know how to make the laces is to make a path down the holes and then run a section of the lace down it. Sounds easy, but if you do that in Max it gets all twisted, you have to adjust the twist at each hole to keep the laces "flat" (I could have done round laces, but wrong style for this shoe). And if you adjust the path you have to readjust the twist, too. Then comes time to make the bow, bo great fun there, either! Anyway, what dio you think? I was doing to make wingtips, but I think that is better done with a bump map.