What's with that!?! :-) It seems that everyone's posting something with M3 ... or is it just my imagination?

Not your imagination, but, if it is any comfort, I not only don't have him but I'm already tired of him.

Just wondering... How's Daz going to make a profit if they give him away to everybody OR How are they going to make a profit if they alienate those they didn't give it to -shrug-

I don't have him yet & have no plans to get him anytime soon. I only have 1GB RAM and that isn't really enough to put both a M3 and a V3 into a scene at the same time anyways.

I'm not worried about Daz. They'll make money off of him. Those who actually buy him will get an add on the testers didn't get ... a morph that turns him into the Daz cube!!

Darn dialyn !!! Dont say thinks like that when I drink coofee !!!!!! Sky :-)

I don't have him yet and I have to agree with Farside. I only have 512 meg and V3's a lot heavier then she looks, if you know what I mean. Besides, I hear he doesn't have a winky! He has to strap one on. ;D

Besides, I hear he doesn't have a winky! He has to strap one on<< He has one...It created quite a stink a while back. When the promotional pics of it were posted, somebody (i forgot who) complained that R'osity was turning into a porn site.

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..a stinky winky??...well I won't be getting him then. SWAMP

'only' 1G of ram?? Wish I had that problem snicker Christmas can't come fast enough for me to get the 1G chip(s) I have on my list....

They've let their vendors have him, but the rest of the herd will have to pony up and pay. They did it to get lots of stuff available for him for sale in the first couple of weeks. V3 was underdressed for at least a month after she came out, and Daz seems to want to correct that problem. There will be textures, boots, clothing (both street and other), poses, etc. available for him the first day or so. Much more than V3 had. The only thing I haven't heard about was hair. ...and there are WAY too many responses I can come up with for "Stinky Winky" that would violate the TOS, and I'm VERY careful not to violate the TOS. You should all be ashamed for tempting me like that.

You must be in a dream. M3 isn't released yet, DAZ doesn't have him in the store yet. The only people that have him are the testers. What I'm wondering about is WHY all the testers try to make him skinny and feminine. I just looked at several posts in the gallery and one in particular had his face looking like a woman or at least a guy wearing makeup. I'd love to see some images of how well he muscles up and not looking feminine and skinny. Drax did some but they got moved.

I'll be getting him. I can't wait. I check the daz site 3 times a day. Love esther

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I agree with you cherokee...they keep saying M3 isn't feminine but all the renders of him are....so why don't they post a render and prove it They haven't so I think he's still a pretty boy....:>) I'll have to see different before I'll plunk out for him. (notice: that's PLUNK out for him not put out for him)

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I'll be buying M3, too. Especially if he's slender. :-) IME, it's easier to bulk up male characters than to make them boyish and slender. That was my main complaint about the previous versions of Mike: it's hard to make adolescent or anime-type characters with them. I'm very pleased with the M3 renders that have been posted. I want Fairy Mike! ;-)

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I hope that some of the morphs are compatable with V3, due to the unimesh they share. Drax's pictures (thread now in Product Showcase -- attached url). The problem I have with V3's muscle morphs is that they make V3 look like a female bodybuilder in contest shape who is flexing. I'd like to see muscular morphs for V3 and M3 that can be used to create a muscular person with normal bodyfat. I hope they provided some "off season" morphs for M3.

Good PR is what prompts me to purchase a product. So far, PR from DAZ for M3 has been pethetic..leaving the testers to do the PR for them. PR should contain the possibilities for the product. As I've mentioned before, about the only images we have been exposed to are of a skinny feminine M3, except for the posts by Drax who at least gave an effort to show a more muscular M3. I'll make up my mind on whether to purchase M3 when he is released but currently, I'm not sure if I will.

No one can currently do PR at this site ... hence a lot of the problem and why people are loathe to post pictures of him at all here. That and everyone is working on things still since he was just sort of finished on Friday. I know I am still working ...

He was just sort of finished on Friday? Ooooh...getting closer. Watch the speculations rise. I'm not fond of depending on a P.R. campaign anyway. The Daz people can make anything look good. I'm more interesting in what he really looks like when someone like me gets their paws on him.

Well maybe finished is a strong word but it is indeed getting closer :)

O.o he has a detachable penis{does anyone even remember that song} from the looks of it in the galleries...the arms are impressive... but ...I would just drag out v3 and do the male morphs.

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I know they can't do PR here at Rosity without someone raising a fuss but they could do it on DAZ3D. There isn't anything at all there.

Maybe those PC club sneak previews will be just around the corner now.

OK, at your service here. A tweak of two body morphs: Muscular 2 and Stocky ... and here's what you get. Is this more of what folks are looking for? (LOL and sorry about the cover ... no thongs in his closet yet ... hehehehe)

Sorry, I forgot 8-(

Hmm. That smiley face is leering at me! Thank you for the morph preview, Deecey.

No prob! And (hehehe) here's an "off-season" morph as requested. LOLOLOLOL

I can wait for Mike3, I bought vic3 day 1 and have yet to install her. From the last 2 pics posted his neck to shoulders looks Odd, not very natural looking to me... just me?

It might be the pose ... it brings his shoulders down really low, I think ... I'll post some better ones tomorrow (getting real late)

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OK rather than keep everyone in suspense I did another quick render with a more neutral pose. The shoulders were brought down too low in the previous renders, which gave it the funny look. Here's another quick one with the Muscular 2 and Stocky dials tweaked (not all the way, just partially). I'm not real big on bulky guys so I don't know what it's supposed to look like. It might be better for someone who knows this stuff to put a few in here. But at least you get the idea 8-)

Deecey what texture did you use in your last post?

PBM, that's Catharina's Marius texture (currently available for M2) which was converted to V3 with the texture converter thingy (the mapping on M3 and V3 are close enough for distant renders). Also ... I hope folks don't get mad that I posted the renders here ... it was meant to be in response to some of the questions asked in the thread, and not as promo renders. I'm trying hard not to cross the line here and if I have already I'm sorry!

A question was asked, you tried to answer it. I can't see how that was a promotion for anything. Thank you, Deecey.

Oh, man, Deecey, that one in post 28 looks just like my redneck ex. Man, you nearly gave me a heart attack! :-) bonni

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Looks good, starting to look like what mike should look like. Thge vicky faces were definitly scary That chest looks a little wrong, it's waaaaayy too square. Looks like thje p4 mans chest. I love what was done to the rists I r4eally like that alot and the shoulders. What about making his hands and feet larger? Is that as buff as he can get? Will he have clothes? Sorry I overreacted when I found out about the modeling process.

Here is a shot of him using the muscle morphs As you can see m3 can be made to be a big bulk of a guy. This is using just the stock m3 morphs.And on the other end of the spectrum he can be made thin. And no this is not a product showcase just an example of what m3 can do.

And ONLY the Daz venders that have him at the moment are those that have promised to create stuff for M3 for concurrent release. I'm a Daz broker and I don't have him (nothing M3 to contribute). Just so none of you get TOO jealous...LOL. Laurie

I'm just happy to see those weird shoulder-to-neck muscles (haven't a clue what they're called) becourse it seems to me that with a proper face morph he would make a great cardassian *G*

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Personally I'm glad they started with a more slender base. As stated above, it's easier to make things bigger than to make them smaller. As for the winky being a prop, that's not such a bad thing either. this way it can be used on the other figures too. (groan, that came out Soooooooo wrong, but it's funny so I'll leave it alone)

And when you a broker and just help testing stuff without contributing anything, you get the unmapped version without all the nice morphs - at least when you are testing posing packs like I do.

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Hi Ugly looking guy isn't he ? I might be tempted to buy him so I have at least 1 fully fuctional mil human male (I like Vicki3 btw) but don't know if I'll have a use for him muscles or not it's all the same if he's got clothes on (I think nudes are over rated of either sex!) Some of the pics remind me of when a group of us used to go to the gym both male and female. (I'm a 91/2 stone skinny guy btw) and my friend Jo used to say at the top of her voice in front of all these muscle heads that she thorght they all looked like 'freaks of nature' needless to say me and the other guys worried that if the fight was to begin we'd have to finish it! (I actually agree with the comment btw) Dave

I showed this same image over at PoserPros, but it seems appropriate to mentionb in this thread.

Michael 3 can be bulked up very well and while his base may be a bit androgenous, a few dials spun here and there and you get pretty far away from that look.

This is an example of what can be done with his face morphs, as well....

Ooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooh VEINS! Are they included or where did you get those?!?!?!

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Made the bumpmap myself. I thought a character that muscular looked awkward without them :)

Btw isn't his head awfully small? I can't remember seing people where the width of their head equals their neck (except a really fat guy I saw once, who virtually had no neck G)

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His traps - those bulgey muscles on either side of his neck - seem quite a bit high when pumped up & the neck doesn't seem to thicken up any (between the slender and very muscular models - #38). Is that an fbm because in post #32, they don't stick out like fruits ready to be plucked. And where are his manboobs?? The ones that aways show up in muscular men? G

In looking at him again, his neck seems to be especially long as well - possibly contributing to the oddity w/the traps....look how high up they attach.

Ahhh, Ok DraX...the face morph is what I was looking for....bulking up a guy doesn't neccessarily make him look masculine....it's that pretty boy face I wanted to get rid of....no.38 above looks like a female body builder.......Thanks for the preview!

ROFL Elizabyte, from now on I will never read your messages with a mouth full of coffee. LMAO!

Mike 2 has that same problem , when the body is "pumped" up, the neck stays the same, as for the traps "bulgy muscles on either side of the neck" they are perfect for the pose drax has him in, but in post #38 the traps do look overly developed, so you'll probably have to turn them down individually from the full body morphs

looking at drax's pic again, the neck looks thicker and the traps blend perfect, good job there

Thanks dirk :) Worked hard on that MOR :)

I like the face in 45.

I'm staying away from steroid Mike, myself. I like men who can bend. Nice to see Mike 3 can have some variations, but I'm not just overwhelmed with awe yet. (Not because the renders aren't all very nice...it's not a problem with the artists but just a lack of interest in this model. I felt the same way about the blond clone a few months ago.) I'm sure the Daz P.R. machine will take care of that inertia soon. I'd rather not have extreme shapes...not ulta thin (in men or women) or ultra bulky (in men or women) but some normal looking people for a change. Oh well. I know I'm a market of one for that.

I think the key to getting more normal looking people is to use the morph dials in graduations rather than setting them at "1" ... and to combine them, and even to use negative dials. There are more than enough morphs in M3 to accomodate a big range of people. And, if not, we can twist Beth's (aka Capsces) proverbial arm. 8-)

If Beth didn't exsist, someone would have to morph her into being. Her variations are, indeed, first rate.

LOL Dialyn :o) Yeah I can't wait to get my greedy little paws on M3, so I can make him look like a REAL live man :o)

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As someone said it isn't just a turn of the "real man of my dreams" dial or anything but he does come with enough morphs that you can get most everything you want.

I'm so old that the only requirement for the man of my dreams is that he be breathing....and that's optional. So I guess Mike will qualify.

ROFL!

Breathing and employed ROFL

I guess we'll need a "Breathless" M3 character set dedicated to Dialyn. :D

Ah - okay, I think I know what it is about the traps that is bothering me - in that I don't think they look natural.

I've just cruised a bunch of bodybuilder photos, trying to get a grip on the exact nature of what was catching my eye. And it IS the traps, but not so much that they're too high on the neck or too bulgey (is that even a word?) it's the they don't appear to go far enough out (towards the shoulders/delts.

Here are a few links to images I referenced, tho not the only ones & I couldn't find one quite exactly like Drax's MOR & pose - which is very good, btw ;) nummy! I do admit that the poses in the links tend to cause the traps to 'roll' forward, thus making them look more 'spread' across the tops of the shoulders only if they're flexed - they don't in a relaxed state.

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http://www.fitnessgoals.net/naturalillinios.jpg
http://www.westpennbodybuilding.com/rick.html

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Well, there is Rawnrr's Necronimus. I guess that would be out of dialyn's league for the breathing requirement.

I'd say Necronimus was about my speed, actually. ;) Very cool graphic.

Yeah, but does he do windows? 8-)

yay finnaly some action lol. In my posts i just did those two figures in less than 5 mins just to show two completly different sides on one char that's all m3 can of course be made to look dif. As for the traps if i remember correctly there is a morph to downsize them a bit of atlast soften them.

Hmm lower one eyebrow and give him an olive complection and you will have the ROCK!

Will we get Mike 2's head on mike 3's body in the deal? Like as in v3 to v2?

V3 to V2 used the head of victoria 3, not victoria 2. As far as I know, DAZ plans to do the same for Mike 3

Heck, I'd be happy with 'lo-res Mike', if they'd ever make one..;)
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Yup. The Muscle morphs look FLEXED not RELAXED.

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Pakled, I wasn't sure if you are kidding or not about Lo-Res Michael, but here he is anyway:

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I'd like to think I had something to do with this, as I did some bitching at DAZ after Vicky 3 came out, about how the people who broker there should have gotten advance copies so they could get a head start on working up products for her. This is tough to do for DAZ, as Mike 3 isn't finished until he is done, and if they (say) change the morphs near the end they are going to piss-off clothing makers who have made their clothing work with the original morphs. Plus you can't do textures until the UV mapping is final, and so on. Anyway, he is going to be great, I only wish my set could have been ready for the intro, but it is going to be about a week late(r), it looks like. Going to be Tux, incidently, Gee, Jim's first-ever male set!

A tux, Jim? Really. A nice looking tux would be great. Vicky has so much evening wear (must be nice to be independently wealthy in her virtual world) that it would be nice to have a hot looking escort. Loved the men's shoes you made too.

It's the same as Barbie & Ken... everyone knows Barbie, she has closets full of stuff (clothes, shoes, handbags, cars, BBQ sets, dance studios, floofy dogs...) And then there's Ken... What? Ken who? Oh, the dweeb with the plastic hair... Didn't they eventually give him a shaving kit? Oh, there's useful props! Hehe...

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Barbie would get the cars, the house, the pool, even a trailer. Ken actually got hair once or twice, but they usually left him with a plastic top and his plastic briefs. Looking forwards to a Tuxedo!

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Ken was just an excuse for the wedding dress. Funny how many adult women still have the same idea. The worst idea for Ken hair was that fuzzy stuff that they used to make "fur" on plastic animals. I remember it being bright yellow. Very unlikely. That is, until I saw someone today with the very same hair. I guess Ken was ahead of his time.

ROFL! Wait till you see it in maraschino cherry red ;-)

"it" could refer to so many things in this thread. Some of them would be disturbing in cherry red.

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Snort hehehehe......

Why couldn't the floofy dog have been for Ken? I remember the fuzzy hair - they tried it on Action Man (GI Joe) too.

I think Ken got to walk the floofy dog but everything belonged to Barbie. She is the Martha Stewart of dolls.

P.S. does anyone remember that they used the same fuzzy stuff for the inside of Yugos??? No wonder those cars were so cheap to build. Spray on linings!