Where do you ask for e-mail notification? My profile has e-mail updates checked yes. Is there something I missed somewhere? I didn't get the Zygote notification til I asked about it in the forum, and ed kindly e-mailed it to me tonite. If anyone cares, I think the camel is great,BTW. I'm sorry about the friction here, I really am such a fan of Renderosity, and its painful to see it. It's a corny line, by now, but, "can't we all just get along?"