zhounder opened this issue on Sep 08, 2003 ยท 13 posts
zhounder posted Mon, 08 September 2003 at 11:15 PM
zhounder posted Mon, 08 September 2003 at 11:16 PM
YosemiteClimber posted Mon, 08 September 2003 at 11:55 PM
I like the first one better. I have just started doing more b+w pictures as opposed to color. Slowly I am getting better at it and love how much more dramatic a scene can look in b+w. The second picture would be a lot better if you had just left it normal. I like the prespective in the second picture also. The oak tree(?) feels stronger to me as a subject in the 2nd picture than in the 1st. Both are great pics. :) -Daren
cynlee posted Tue, 09 September 2003 at 12:26 AM
without reading yosemite's yet, i'd choose the 2nd, because i like the hint of color, closer view, no powerlines, more off center, less open sky, & less competition for focal point... :] there you go
Novacane posted Tue, 09 September 2003 at 12:33 AM
The second one is better. I agree with everything cynlee said, especially about focal point. What am I looking at in the first picture? It looks like a good scene for opening credits. It could also use a bit more contrast. On the second picture I see that you desaturated it considerably. Gives it a nice dreary look. Could be better if there were more clouds in that blank spot of sky, but I can hardly blame you for that! I would try cropping some of the top and bottom off (like a widescreen movie) and see what that looks like. I think the picture might look a bit richer that way. Either way, good atmosphere.
finnspooka posted Tue, 09 September 2003 at 3:56 AM
I agree with cynlee concerning the closer and more off center view. But i like open skies and the tree in the street (power lines) context. my favorites the first one.
jgeorge posted Tue, 09 September 2003 at 9:06 AM
And I like better the second one ... I like tyhe hinyt of colour too, and the composition... I like that tree as the subject of the pic... (not very expert, just a matter of taste)
Michelle A. posted Tue, 09 September 2003 at 3:04 PM
Both are very nice Michael.....compositionally I think the second is the stronger of the two. As far as color or no color....I like them both well enough. :~) The second gives the feeling of a hand tinted photograph.
I am, therefore I create.......
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Tedz posted Tue, 09 September 2003 at 5:55 PM
I like the Second pic...no distractions...like Cynlee :)
Wolfsnap posted Tue, 09 September 2003 at 8:01 PM
I think it's a matter of mood - or the mood you want to portray. To me, these two images are completely different - even though the same subject material. Neither one, to me, is a "photograph of a tree" - they're both "photographs of a feeling or mood". What i like about the first one: To me, it says "I'm on my own - I'm flying solo". Typically, I don't care for skies without interest - but in this case, it drives the point home. The is no question as to what the subject of this photo is - and it sends a message that i think everyone can associate with. What i like about the second one: I states strength - superiority over the other smaller trees within the composition. This image also gives me more of a feeling of closeness and "protected", if you will. The large image of the tree looks more like a guardian - something you can rely on - in complete control of its destiny. I guess the point I'm trying to make is - neither shot is "better" than the other - depends on the context of the meaning of the photo. If I were looking for a shot to depict the feeling of the Great Depression, something that illustrated an individual against a hard, cruel world - I would have to say the first shot captures that concept perfectly. On the other hand, if I were looking for a shot that depicts "solid, reliable, "you can count on me" sort of concept - the second shot gives me that feeling in spades. Bottom line - given my current mood - I'm more into the first shot....tomorrow, I may like the second! Both are excellent - but I don't think anyone can really say one is any better than the other. Wolf
firestorm posted Wed, 10 September 2003 at 1:09 AM
compositionally the second one is better. i'm not sure of the washed out look though, it may be a bit too washed out for me. i would like to see the second in b&w, i think it would look good.
Pictures appear to me, I shoot them. Elliot Erwitt
brittmccary posted Thu, 11 September 2003 at 5:12 PM
I like the 2nd better, basically because I think it makes for a better composition, - but also because the tree gets more attention.
Wolfsnap posted Fri, 12 September 2003 at 12:09 AM
But is it a photograph of a tree? frankly - if it were a pure shot of a tree, it could have been done better. i think it's a shot of mood. Yes, the composition of the second shot is excellent - but of a subject matter that can be found without much searching. Just my opinion, but the photographer was not trying to take a picture of a "tree" - he was trying to express a mood he felt when he saw the scene. The empirical "tree photograph" was not what he was after - he was after presenting the feeling he had when he first envisioned the scene - which had to include more than the tree. This is my guess - This tree is nothing spectacular - but the environment in which the tree exists portrayed a feeling - probably of "WOW - here's a huge tree - and there's nothing around it that comes close to it's magnitude or grace - which makes it look even bigger!" - it's that feeling that is accomplished in the first shot. Of course, I'm reading (maybe) too much meaning into the photographer's message - but to me, as a viewer of the images - the first one makes a statement that i can associate with - that i can "get into"....the second shot, even though it's a textbook example of excellent composition, just doesn't say anything to me - it's a well composed shot of an excellent, but common, subject of a tree. The first shot hits me with a mood - kind of a Grapes of Wrath type of feeling. The second, although it seems like the tree exhibits some authority against the smaller trees - just doesn't carry the strength of the mood of the first shot - and (I apologize to those who don't agree - not looking for a conflict here) the tree is not (to me) interesting enough to carry off a composition unto itself as a "shot of a tree". OK - have at me...