I tried last night, to download the demo version of Cinema 4d R8 last night from the Maxon website. When you download free demo's they require you to put in a valid phone number....so I used the word unlisted. HAHA it didn't work, so I actually used my real number... Well, the demo wont' work for me, BUT!! Today I recieved a call from Maxon asking how I liked the demo I downloaded. (welllllll) Needless to say, after a 25mb download, twice, I made sure to tell em how it didn't work at all...and the lady then asked me if I wanted them to mail me a free demo CD... SO i said yesssssssss LOL Anyhow, She said the only restriction is that you cannot save from it, and if I wish to upgrade at any time to the full version, instead of paying $1500 (estimated) it would only be $99 to get the full version... They also have on the site, the bundle versions that include a Bodypaint 3d R2 or something like that. Anyhow, if you can't or dont' get the magazine, You may want to try that route instead... Best of Luck to ya all!! JenC