Some people really was excited about Cinema 4d, so i decided to download the free trial version, i didnt found it very interesting but, when i did my first rendering i was amazed, really it's better than poser 5 render, here i am using alasunthia head maps from the marketplace (I just love those maps) i cant beleive the realism, of course with a little bit of postwork the results will be amazing, this image has no postwork so and if u are asking why i used closed eyes its because i think eyes look much more realistic with poser 5 rendering, please if someone knows how to make work V3 eyes in cinema 4D please IM. Hugs jeharsy :)