Lynn opened this issue on Sep 16, 2003 ยท 54 posts
Lynn posted Tue, 16 September 2003 at 8:37 AM
Attached Link: http://www.e-onsoftware.com/Products/vue4pro/index.php
E-on software Ships Vue 4 Professional NATURAL 3D SCENERY STUDIO RELEASED AT APPLE EXPO September 16, 2003. Beaverton, OR. e-on software, the developer of award winning 3D natural scenery products, announces the immediate availability of Vue 4 Professional for MacOS X and Windows, the newest addition to its line of products for professional 3D designers and digital video production houses. Vue 4 Professional doesnt lock you into a closed environment, but instead enables you to select the best combination of tools for any project. Vue 4 Professional can be both a destination for rendering or part of the process in a project pipeline, said Nicholas Phelps, president of e-on software. Vue 4 Professional provides a complete, professional natural 3D studio. Vue 4 Professional is a standalone product that integrates with all leading 3D applications, including Discreet 3D Studio MAX, Alias Maya, NewTek LightWave, Maxon Cinema4D and Softimage XSI. It also exports data to compositing applications such as Discreet Combustion and Adobe AfterEffects. With an intuitive and production-oriented layout, professionals will be able to quickly create and enhance their production with incredible, wind-swept SolidGrowth 3 trees and plants, volumetric atmospheres and rich terrains in fully animated scenes that can be customized and rendered within Vue 4 Professional. Digital video production houses and professional 3D designers will find Vue 4 Professional the most productive solution for the creation and rendering of 3D natural effects, with almost zero ramping up time needed to integrate it into the production cycle, said Richard Schrand, author of FinalCut Pro 3: Complete Reference and Go-Live 5 fx &Design. Vue 4 Professional ships on 3 CDs with a 460+ page manual, in a hybrid Windows and MacOS X configuration and is immediately available for purchase. Vue 4 Professional retails for $599 with a special introductory price of $499.Users of Vue dEsprit 4 will be able to sidegrade to Vue 4 Professional for $299 during the introductory period. A complete and detailed list of features is available on the e-on software website at http://www.e-onsoftware.com. About e-on software Founded in 1997, e-on software was established to develop and promote the highest quality graphics tools. E-on software was founded on the premise that powerful graphics tools should never get in the way of a designers creativity. E-on softwares product line includes the award winning Vue dEsprit 4 and the Ozone 2.0 line of professional atmospheric plugins. E-on software is based in Beaverton, Oregon. Press Contact e-on software 503-646-4857SAMS3D posted Tue, 16 September 2003 at 9:26 AM
Ya hoo, I just ordered mine.....now the wait....unfortunately I think the internet order might have gotten screwed up, so I did email you folks right away.....hope I get it soon.....all this anticiaption, not good for my little heart. Sharen
dlk30341 posted Tue, 16 September 2003 at 10:24 AM
I say thank god I have till 10/15...can't get it till then as vacation starts next week....Strange I'd rather have the software NOW...but hubby prefers vacation...LOL
SAMS3D posted Tue, 16 September 2003 at 10:25 AM
Oh my gosh....I also just ordered Mover 4, I saw the clip on their site....I figured a must have......running away from Mike as he chases me with a broom. Sharen :-)
gebe posted Tue, 16 September 2003 at 12:12 PM
Guitta
SAMS3D posted Tue, 16 September 2003 at 12:20 PM
I saw that, that is so cool....I really can't wait, get to learn all over again, how exciting. Sharen PS: I wonder what I should do first, I bought Mover 4 to, I have not upgraded to the beta, was waiting for the official release, so should I install Mover 4 on top of 4.12 Vue, then install Vue 4 Pro...?
dlk30341 posted Tue, 16 September 2003 at 12:23 PM
OOOOOOO...I can't wait!!!!! I take it this new version allows for leaf editting etc.....damn vacations...always interfering...LMAO....8)
gebe posted Tue, 16 September 2003 at 12:23 PM
Install Mover over Vue 4.12 and then read what is said about the Pro install when you get it. I don't know exactly:-) Guitta
SAMS3D posted Tue, 16 September 2003 at 12:27 PM
I really couldn't find info on installation of Vue Pro, I looked at the FAQ's and then tried to look up Knowledge base, but maybe there will be some info when it comes....oh I am so excited...of course we can't eat for a month, but we need to loose weight anyways. Sharen
gebe posted Tue, 16 September 2003 at 12:32 PM
And I just uploaded an image to the gallery:-)
gebe posted Tue, 16 September 2003 at 12:35 PM
SAMS3D posted Tue, 16 September 2003 at 12:38 PM
Oh Guitta, this is going to be such a blast. Sharen
gebe posted Tue, 16 September 2003 at 12:56 PM
At e-on's site is a new video, a MUST SEE. It's a hugh file and the video is 5 minutes long. It is amazing:-) Guitta
davidrivera posted Tue, 16 September 2003 at 1:02 PM
Guitta, does Vue Pro render faster then Vue 4?
gebe posted Tue, 16 September 2003 at 1:04 PM
Yes, very much faster on my machine:-)
SAMS3D posted Tue, 16 September 2003 at 1:04 PM
oh YES, I saw that Guitta, please I can't see anymore, I want it now.....did you beta test this? You got it right.....oh man, I envy you girl. Sharne
gebe posted Tue, 16 September 2003 at 1:11 PM
Yes, I beta tested it:-). The images are done with the latest beta:-).
SAMS3D posted Tue, 16 September 2003 at 1:14 PM
Well if you tested it and love it, I am sure I will too. Thank you for doing this work....now I have to hate you a little out of jelousy.....okay it is over, now I am just envious. LOL...Sharen
gebe posted Tue, 16 September 2003 at 1:19 PM
:-)
Sentinal posted Tue, 16 September 2003 at 2:31 PM
Sharen, you've put a smile on my face with your excitement and girly enthusiasm. I don't think I've ever seen you spell your name wrong before! I hope you tell us all what you think of it when VuePro arrives. :)
SAMS3D posted Tue, 16 September 2003 at 2:48 PM
LOL...Oh I just noticed that....ha ha ha.....I am excited...boy this is what my life is huh? Oh who cares, I will die with a smile on my face. Sharen
SAMS3D posted Tue, 16 September 2003 at 2:48 PM
Oh and Sentinal, I will, surely will.....:-)
MindVision-GDS posted Tue, 16 September 2003 at 2:58 PM
Hey peeps, I was just about to order Ozone 2 for Cinema4D when E-on dropped this announcement in my mailbox. Now the question is..would I still need Ozone if I have Vue Pro? ~Marco.
gebe posted Tue, 16 September 2003 at 3:01 PM
Yes, as far as I know you need Ozone for your Cinema 4d
MindVision-GDS posted Tue, 16 September 2003 at 3:05 PM
Hmmm..ok than what exactly do they mean by this? : Vue 4 Professional naturally integrates and extends all major 3D applications* to provide a complete, professional natural 3D studio. *Synchronization plug-ins and file format support for 3DS Max, Cinema 4D, LightWave, Maya, Softimage XSI
gebe posted Tue, 16 September 2003 at 3:28 PM
I report here what Lynn wrote in a previous thread: 3C4D. Ozone 2.0 for C4D works directly within C4D, whereas Vue 4 Professional is a cooperative product. You will want Ozone 2.0 for C4D if you need any real granularity over atmospheres.3<:I>
gebe posted Tue, 16 September 2003 at 3:29 PM
You will be able to export entire scenes, objects, plants, skies to the named softwares.
Peggy_Walters posted Tue, 16 September 2003 at 3:36 PM
That puff of smoke in San Diego was my credit card being charged up. Got my copy ordered. That video is great! Can't wait. Peggy
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MindVision-GDS posted Tue, 16 September 2003 at 3:36 PM
So basically the difference is that both let you use the Vue atmosphere only in Pro you have to make it in Vue than export it and Ozone enables you to create and adjust atmospheres from within C4D?
richardnovak77 posted Tue, 16 September 2003 at 5:50 PM
any plans on a demo version?
estherau posted Tue, 16 September 2003 at 6:10 PM
Does it import full poser 5 stuff - hair and clothe etc? Love esther
I aim to update it about once a month. Oh, and it's free!
thorntoa posted Tue, 16 September 2003 at 6:27 PM
I think I'm going to order this . . . Hope my credit card doesn't explode . . .:(o)
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richardnovak77 posted Tue, 16 September 2003 at 6:46 PM
i don't think it imports cloth/hair from poser, nor do i think it can generate its own. this leaves 2 choices: either don't use people or cloth of any type in your animations (or use plastic-look hair, like p4) or use this program to create an environment, and go out and buy lightwave, max, maya, c4d, softimage, etc... thing is, those programs usually have their own fog, particles, dynamics, and better render engines anyhow, so if you have vue 4, you can make your terrains there, then export them to your other 3d app, and apply all other effects and animate right there. i'm not bagging on v4 pro. it's just that without dynamic cloth and hair, you still have to go to another program for those needs, and if you have another program that can do those things (with the exception of p5) then why would you need v4 pro? you'd still need to buy ozone, you'd still need to buy mover... best of luck to those who buy it though. i can't say it's not tempting. ren
lingrif posted Tue, 16 September 2003 at 6:58 PM
All of this enthusiasm is very catchy. I just ordered the software even though I can't afford it. I can't remember the last time I was this excited about a product. What fun! Lin
Jcleaver posted Tue, 16 September 2003 at 8:38 PM
I'm excited, and disheartened. This is something I really want, but alas, the sidegrade special ends 3 days before I would be able to order it. Oh well, I hope people enjoy it, as I probably won't.
gebe posted Wed, 17 September 2003 at 1:00 AM
With a little luck, e-on hopefully will extend the special period for sidegrade order??
norm1153 posted Wed, 17 September 2003 at 1:50 AM
You know, this product is really filling a little 3D void area. They've gone to great lengths to insure compatibility with every major format, and then some. I sure wish them the best of luck! Now that I've ordered, I'm sitting here drooling over the possibilities.. I stopped work on a scene I had already started, using a donated item from Sam's 3D (thank you, Sharen!), and I'll pick it up in Vue Pro again. Someone indicated earlier a problem getting an Order#. Mine showed up in either the 2nd or 3rd screen; several screens before I got to the payment screen, in fact. Thanks, Norm
Djeser posted Wed, 17 September 2003 at 3:32 AM
Lynn mentioned in a previous thread, I think, that after the release of the product the beta testers are allowed to talk publicly about their experiences with the product. Is this in fact true? Before I invest $$, time, and effort in the product, I would like to know how stable it is and what bugs or issues the beta testers have found. I would rather pay more money for a stable product than pay a bit less right away out of excitement and enthusiasm and end up with something that may still have kinks to work out. Don't mean to sound like a wet blanket, to those who have ordered already, more power to ya, but I'd sure like to hear from the beta testers about the product. So Lynn, can the beta testers legally talk with users now?
gebe posted Wed, 17 September 2003 at 3:34 AM
I did already "speak" about Vue 4 Pro, posted samples, answered questions etc. See the other threads. If you have a special question, just post it:-) Guitta
Djeser posted Wed, 17 September 2003 at 3:39 AM
Yes, Guitta, I have read your posts with interest. I was referring to the beta testers in general, as I am wondering if there are other members of the Renderosity Vue community that were beta testers. I know you have many years of experience with Vue, since I think the first version? If you would care to comment on any issues or bugs you found, I would basically like to know if there are any known issues with this initial release for Windows.
Cheers posted Wed, 17 September 2003 at 3:41 AM
From the info on the e-on website: "....and a pouch of 5 postcards of pictures made by famous Vue artists." Interesting to know, what pictures were selected for the postcards. Anyone have any idea? Cheers
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gebe posted Wed, 17 September 2003 at 5:29 AM
Djeser: we were testing Vue 4 Professional for month. E-on would not present it at Apple Expo and would not ship it if we had found bugs in the final beta:-) I'm ONLY working and creating images with the latest beta and cannot go back to Vue 4 now (even if Vue 4.12 is already great). This new soft is so amazing!! E-on's people have done a hard and great job to offer us such a jewlery:-) Cheers: No we don't know. Maybe the first who receives the shipped version will tell us?
Spit posted Wed, 17 September 2003 at 5:42 AM
What about the OpenGL? That's what worries me. Did any of the testers by chance have a GEForce 3?
gebe posted Wed, 17 September 2003 at 5:54 AM
Vue 4 Professional includes a video card tester. When you open VP for the first time, it will tell you if your card is compatible with VP's OpenGL. At any moment, you can test your card from the FILE/OPTIONS. I have opened a thread for that here: http://www.renderosity.com/messages.ez?Form.ShowMessage=1417411 If your card works xit Vue 4.12, it should also work with Vue 4 Professional.
Djeser posted Wed, 17 September 2003 at 6:10 AM
Since you are able to discuss the beta testing with Vue Professional, Guitta, that means the other beta testers can talk about it as well?
gebe posted Wed, 17 September 2003 at 6:26 AM
BTW, Djeser, we are not speaking about beta testing. beta testing is our secret:-). But we can speak about Vue 4 Professional's features. Guitta
Djeser posted Wed, 17 September 2003 at 6:47 AM
Attached Link: http://www.renderosity.com/messages.ez?ForumID=12368&Form.ShowMessage=1423612&Reply=1424436#34
Guitta, in the post at the link attached, #34 on the thread, Lynn specifically and exactly says "Once we ship, all the beta testers can discuss their experiences." . This does not say to me that experiences in beta testing are anyone's secret after shipping of the product, but that E-on is willing to share information. Perhaps Lynn could clarify? Thanks!gebe posted Wed, 17 September 2003 at 6:56 AM
What Lynn said, means our experiences with Vue 4 Professional. Beta tests are ALWAYS completely confidential. And where should be the interest for you we speak about beta tests? There is nothing that could interest anybody, except e-on. THEY made the program:-). Guitta
Spit posted Wed, 17 September 2003 at 7:42 AM
That's neat. But it would be nice if Eon packaged up the test code separately so we could test before we buy.
Djeser posted Wed, 17 September 2003 at 8:11 AM
So the beta testers can talk about their experiences with Vue 4 Professional, as you stated. That is correct? I do not want to misunderstand anyone. And Guitta, I am always interested in everything about a program I have or am thinking of purchasing. I find it very valuable to learn about the program so I can make an informed choice. And I know what I am interested in. I was at the E-on website, and was reading through the information on Vue 4 Pro. They talked about the plants (30) and the new plant editor, are the plants the same as currently in Vue? I had purchased the additional plants from Eon as well. I am watching to see if they put a demo version up at the site. Thanks!
gebe posted Wed, 17 September 2003 at 8:17 AM
I don't know about the plants. Because while testing, we only used the current plants that came also with the original Vue 4. And as I'm almost using the beta... Guitta
richardnovak77 posted Wed, 17 September 2003 at 9:30 AM
do we have any examples of how these plants look when they are exported to other apps such as lightwave? thanks, ren
Lynn posted Wed, 17 September 2003 at 9:47 AM
Beta testers can talk about the software features, show their work, that sort of thing. The beta test process itself is a part of how e-on works as a company -- part of our secret sauce. So they shouldnt talk about that. But by all means, beta testers, show your artwork and tell folks what you think is cool about Vue 4 Pro! No problem with that. Best regards, Lynn Fredricks e-on software
Djeser posted Wed, 17 September 2003 at 9:52 AM
Exactly what I was hoping for, Lynn. I could care less about your "secret sauce", lol! Thanks for the clarification, I'd like to hear from some testers/users about the new features. Regards, Djeser PS. Sorry for referring to you as a "she", Lynn!