Above is a comparison of: LEFT: the default M3sr1 mesh with no morphs MIDDLE: the M3 to M2 mesh with M3 face morphs RIGHT: the default M2 mesh with no morphs Looking at them all next to each other is interesting: 1) I really like having a morphable M3 head on the M2 body shape, too bad the body can't morph as well. The old M2 to P4NM head wasn't able to take the regular M2 face morphs, so this is a really cool improvement. I can't to try M2 clothes on M3 to see how well it works. :D 2) The joint areas do look better on M3SR1 in this pose than M2. However, you can clearly see the strange circular depression on the inside left forearm that doesn't exist on the m3sr1 right arm. Bizarre. 3) I do miss M2's manly man pecs and nipples which don't look like boobs morphed to look more manly. *sigh* But hey, at least M3's pecs look better than V3 Male's. I thought V3Male was really deformed looking, M3's shape is so much better. 4) I like the detailing in M3's shape. Areas like the neck, adam's apple, collarbone, arms, hands, and knees have far more detail than the old M2 mesh. 5) Have I mentioned that I like M3's head so much better, and find it's morphs to better than M2's? 6) I think M3's legs and feet are huge improvement over M2's.You can't see it in this picture, but M3's feet are also a more manly size than M2's miniature nubs. ;) 7) Overall, I think M3 has problem spots mostly in breasts, pecs, nipples, and arm joints. 8) I know I've already said the M3 face I like better, but I would also like to say M3's ears are properly lined up to fall between the eyes and the bottom of the nose unlike M2's ear that sag too low. Anyhoo, what do you all think looking at the Mike comparisons? bB