I would like to take this oppurtunity to thank all of you here at renderosity for all the help you have given to me. I used to be a member here under the nic SaNiTaRiUm, but when the change took place from PFO to renderosity, i kind of dropped out for awhile. Now, even if you dont knnow how much you help, i will tell you that you help all of us who would otherwise be in the dark. I cant use the chat, I have a firewall that i have set the ruleset to block all IRC, or i would love to be able to chat with some of you. I stop by about once a week, and check out the downloads, and get lots of stuff. Caligula helped a lot with a temple i needed, and i downloaded some fonts and an apple today. But, ya see, those of you who do all this stuff, and then make it public for everyone else to use, well, i just dont think you get enough credit for it. So, again, thanks a bunch, all your help is very appreciated. sincerely spaz