Lo all I tried to eport the whole scene from pro now all i was tryign to export was a sphere and some objects just to see if it would work and no all it exports is the atmosphere with its map not the whole scene,any one else find this or am i haveing all these problems on my own,becouse its lookign more and more likly i will need a format to get these progs working and i dont relay want to do that lol regrads seeklight