You know, if I would have known how complicated this was going to be I'd probably have started something else... Anyway, Mike's Tux is coming along, I did some research but there are still some things that are unclear. I wore a tux in a wedding once, but that was a looooog time ago, so some things I'm guessing at, does anybody know if: Full-house formal shirts omit the front pocket, right? They take 4 studs and (I assume) a button at the collar. I already know about the button imboard of the cuff-links. I understand "proper" cuff-links have a jewel (or whatever) on both sides, not the little sway bar on the back that most of them have these days. I'm going to do a vest, maybe an alternate cumberbund, too, maybe that as part of an top-hat-and-tails update, are "proper" cumberbunds full height all the way around? Most of the ones you see are just sort of a front band hels on with rear straps. I have no idea on this. ;-) Here is a pic of the shirt, most of the rest of the set is about to the fitting stage too, Oh, My is this stuff complicated, all the tradition and all that stuff. Some parts look very old fashion to my eyes, I'm not going to do braces, I think, nore those solid shirt fronts I remember from old Three Stooges movies...