Went through Tim Choate's little spiel, more with a sense of wanting to know the guy than anything else. In the year and a half that I've complained about this and that on this site, I have to say that ultimately I enjoy the general liberty that Renderosity affords us. Other places are cliquy little holes that stench of elitism. I mean, sure, certain communities in R'osity are as cliquy and elitist as you can get, but the general nobody has a voice and an ability to post his work no matter what. Aside from that, Choate's thing kind of smells of forced friendliness from a corporate world perspective. The guy's trying to be friendly at arm's length, where the arm is a dozen lawyers and derriere kissers. Just my impression, really. In terms of what he's actually thinking of doing with Renderosity, the ideas are quite good. For one thing, getting rid of this horrid style of forums and moving on to a more 21st century-type presentation would make the site look much better and increase the interaction b/w members as well. Perhaps an IRC roo... no, no, that's just beyond control... so yeah. This post has no real purpose. AS's post made me think of the Hail to the Chief song. Mihnea

I agree with you, he did side step a few things, the "Disenyfying" of Renderosity for one. Nudes have all but disappeared for the gallery thumbs, and the marketplace. My general impression was that Renderosity is more for the marketplace and 10 year olds, not artists. but, that's just an my impression.

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well obviously, the marketplace it's probably one of the most important parts of the site as far as he's concerned, because it's what brings him money. considering the bandwith the site must eat up and the fact that the advertisements are not always from product makers, but in-house ones... yeah. money, money, money E~

Draculaz, This has nothing at all to do with what you're talking about unless there' some analogy with Tim to to the Sheriff of Nottingham I'm missing but I heard on the radio that they found Robin Hoods bones. I checked my calender and it wasn't April 1st so since you're in a unique Geographic position being in Nottingham and all I was wondering if you heard anything about it there? - TJ

Next to Robin Hood's bones was a note. It read, 'This has been a Walt Diney Production!'

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ROFLMAO 8D.............Robin Hood, really. Did he have a note attached to him saying so, I mean, how the hell can they tell that a bunch of old bones are the one and only Robin Hood? Maybe they've got some genetic markers though from his decendants, but then again that would only mean that it's someone from the same family line. News is a wonderful thing. 8) Catlin

Catlin, he had his name branded into the back of his cast iron underwear for fear of getting lost in the forest.

Is there a historical basis for Robin Hood? That is what I thought ... you don't know either. When I heard the article on KMJ radio I thought ... huh? Then Nottingham ... then Draculaz. This site raises the question of whether there is a Robin Hood or not. http://www.geocities.com/puckrobin/rh/robbeg.html "In one version, Robin of Loxley is killed, and Robert of Huntingdon becomes the second Robin Hood . . ."

I had always read that Robin Hood was a just a legend in most legitimate sources. On the other hand, there is a good tourist trade, I understand, in tours of what is supposed to be Sherlock Holmes' flat. And I KNOW he was fictional...Wasn't he? :^)

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he's mentioned back at least as far as The Canturbury Tales..but seemed fairly legendary even back then..

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tjohn, Of course Holmes was fictional . . . but that's what I thought about Robin Hood too . . . until a couple of days ago. It seems at least some fictional characters have a historical basis i.e. James Bond apparantly was based on some guy in the KGB named Popov ... and If I ever find my old bullfinches mythology I'll dig out the poem about Conan written circa 600 A.D. - TJ

James Bond wasn't based on someone called Popov. I read an obituary for the real-life model; he died about a week ago. Can't remember the name though. Some agent I'd make :(

Phantast, then forgive my failing memory, but the point I was trying to make was that the character was based on someone in real life. ... Here's the poem I was refering to about Conan the Cymri(ian) look under THE WELSH BARDS. Not much there and it was the 500s not the 600s but things like that kind of makes you wonder how much of what is in mythology might have actually happened. Helen of Troy - did her face actually launch a thousand ships? If you've never had a chance to read bullfinch's mythology, go to the index page and bookmark it for later reading. This is really a treat, if you like this sort of thing. http://www.bartleby.com/182/201.html

Apparently this thread has been hijacked :) Perhaps by Robin Hood. LOL Seriously biker is correct most of these characters are romanticized(sp?) stories based on real people. There is evdence that Robin Hood existed and ther was a Robert of Loxley. There was a king that pulled the Brits together to fight against the Saxxon invaders which produced the legend of King Aurthur. Of course the real life characters are no where near what the legends speak of but then it wouldn't be an interesting story to retell over and over again would it?

Robin Hood was probably a derivation on 'Robber in the Hood' Sherlock Holmes is fiction. Ian Fleming based James Bond 007 on himself. King Arthur 'The Once & Future King' is still argued over to this day.

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The flat that Sherlock Holmes lived in is a real place as are many of the places mntioned in the books. I'd really like to go on the Holmes tour, I loved the stories when I was young. 8) And King Arthur and Camelot were real, I've seen the film. lol 8D Catlin

GEEEEEZZZZZZZ !!!!!!! ive been out for what? more than 3 months now? and i goto the forums what do i see? a looooong htread about... well not th topic but ROBIN HOOD! ahahhaha yeah right... eyecon just taking a peep and feeling sad coz he has no post still...

nah..James Bond (the character) was based on a guy that died recently, the last name was hyphenated, though I can't remember what's on either side of the hyphen..;)..James Bond (the name) is actually a famous Orinthologist..;)
Sherlock Holmes was based on a Medical Instructor that AC Doyle had, who would regal the class with the occupations and habits of the cadavers they worked on, based on their physiological wear and tear.. Watson, I think was more based on Doyle. I've been to the 'real' apartment of Holmes..it's quite the tourist trap, tho they were fairly accurate.
King Arthur is thought to be based on (among other people), Arturius, though the earliest recorded mentions seem to be about 200 years afterwards (monks, natch..;) Mallory was a jailbird (another of those mixed bag of prison novels, like Don Quixote, and that excerable Mein Kampf who gussied up the legends..actually Arthurian literature is spread out among the French and English of the day..but I runneth off at the moutheth..;)

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all right, who hijacked my thread? bikermouse damn you!!! :) but no, no one knows where robin hood's bones lie, and they're certainly not in nottingham. the actual robin hood -the original non-disneyfied one- was a big distance from here in Yorkshire. Just watched a documentary about it. and the thread wasn't about robin hood. don't you people know the song they play for the president of the united states? tam tam tamtam tam tara rar ra rar aaaa err... yeah it's called Hail to the Chief drac

Draculaz, Hmmm! Lately some of us here in America have been thinking it's called "Hail to the Thief" but that's a topic for another time and perhaps another forum. Ah well, Thanks Draculaz for responding. I sort of thought the article on KMJ was bunk, but I was curious enough to ask. I didn't mean to completely derail the thread ... just sort of happened ... and I was finally motivated to find a web version of bullfinch's mythology so something good resulted from it at least on my end. I wish I could find my copy of bullfinch, hardcover which was printed way back in the thirty's. Anyrate thanks, - TJ(bikermouse - aka Robert of Huntington)

lol, cheers :)

My mobile phone has 'Hail to the Chief' for a ringtone.....not sure I got it right though... Robin Hood's bones are buried within bowshot of where he died..............so there.... And if we're going along the legends route, how about George and the Dragon? The Lampton Worm/Wurm The Loch Ness Monster (See Catlin for reference material) (and no, I'm not suggesting that Catlin is the monster..) Thank god we solved the mystery of the Burmuda Triangle...

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we did?

not to quote Draculaz or anything, but .. we did?

Sure, we solved the Bermuda Triangle...Didn't you guys get the memo? 8^D BTW, Bigfoot is living in one of my sheds. That's right I have 2 sheds. That's why they call me "Two-sheds" Tjohn. And no, Drac, you can't have your thread back. :^) (mentally picturing us tossing the thread back and forth over Drac's head while he tries to grab it)

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Now, tjohn ... did you use the pythagoran theorem to solve it?

Since there's so many SF fans here, I'd recommend Robert Holdstock's Mythago Wood, a great fantasy novel. Holdstock says in one place that Robin Hood is a mythical person created after Green Jacks. Now, I should re-read the book to see what exactly a Green Jack was, but apparently a kind of spirit that protected the land/forest from invaders.

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Oh yes the Loch Ness Monster is definately real, whenever you're having tea along the loch side it's a question of one hump or two.................TADA 8D (runs off giggling madly) Catlin Oh and thanks for clearing up the monster definition Bryster, some folk could have been confused. 8)

lol oooo that's bad, catlin lol

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Burmuda Triangle: ships and boats were always disappearing into what became known as the Burmuda Triangle. Reports stated that they either got lost 'cos their compass was screwed up, or the sea got very rough, or a strange fog came outa nowhere, all that kinda thing. Putting it all together the mystery was solved by those coming to the conclusion that organic material on the seabed was periodicaly releasing methane gas or the like... Now, gas and water in such quantitys means that the water is less dense than it should be and boats can't float on gas so they sink! Ta-Da! The gas floats over the water and looks like fog, it ionises the air and screws up compasses, when the gas surfaces it churns up the water.......had enough yet?

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Yeah heard that! So how's them bubbly things affect aereoplanes, and them-there submariniethingiemobobolie sonofaguns, hmmmmm?

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The aeroplanes get affected by the gas because combustion engines need air to work and the methane would make the engines stall. The quantities of methane that are released in these events is massive and seemingly happens more often than originally thought. Catlin

Bikermouse: The gas released from the sea rises above the water and eventually reaches higher altitudes and has the same kind of effect on planes...screws up compasses and instruments....as for subs.....never heard of a sub being lost in the BT..........I've actually sailed through the BT many times.....I'm still here...LOL

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Catlin: you just beat me...........LOL

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Great minds Bryster. 8)

Small story on my experience in clipping the triangle. In the Coast Guard we were heading for Puerto Rico and just for fun (I was the navigator) I kept track of when we crossed into the triangle. Noone else onboard was told and it was a very clear night, nothing special. Well as soon as we crossed the line the engines and power cut out for a few seconds then came back up. At that time I told the Officer of the Deck that we just crossed. Make of it what you will :)

Spooky one Aldaron.............did that only happen the once or was it a regular thing? I read in a book years ago that around the mid latitudes there are an arrangement of triangles, the Bermuda triangle being one, and that in these areas there are fluxes in the magnetic field which can cause these type of phenomenon. I don't know if that was proved scientifically but if it were true it could explain some of these occurences. Catlin

That bubbly thing would indicate oil. Nice thought theory or whathave you, but I don't think so. The oil companies would be out there in droves. and no them bubbly thingis would disapate in the atmosphere so sorry do not comptutatate regarding the areoplaneocomobobsulator thingies.

Bikermouse it is a scientific fact and was proved by seafloor research carried out along the east coast of the US and along the west coast of Scandinavia. Catlin

And it wasn't oil, it was gases given off by rotting undersea vegetation......

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Geographys changed some since I were in that there education place - Scandinavia is in the B.T.?

Learn to read, Biker, learn to read...............LOL

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Bryster, Actually, I Saw the same article on PBS (nova?) on the Bermuda Triangle several years ago as you and Catlin obviously have, but It's a theory; until it is actually seen happening in the B.T. They haven't actually seen it happening have they? until they do a theory is all it is. As to that reading thing, well I'm not going there, but you'd do well to change the subject. - TJ

Personally I don't read, I just look at the pictures and color them in. lol 8D

Bikermouse, Scandinavia is not in the BT but the same activity has been discovered there. There are massive craters in the sea floor just off the coast of Scan and they have seen the methane being released and the resultant devastation on the sea floor. Catlin

Catlin, I caught your drift on that. I'm not saying that it's not a reasonable theory and for that matter I do tend to agree with it, but I'm not %100 convinced, and even if it did happen in some cases, is it plausable to say that it was responsable for all disapearances? There may be more to it; reasonably I think that the bubbly things might be it but there's some part of me that doesn't buy it as the complete explaination. - TJ

Well when I was a kid I would read everything I could about the BT..........and color in the pictures too..........and back then the main explaination was............DADADANNNNNNNNNNNNN..........UFO's. I still like the idea of UFO's, and who knows that might be part of the big picture. 8) Catlin

"The truth is out there..." I think the X-files did a couple of whatifs about the B.T. one dealt with UFOs and the missing air squadren and the other had something to do with time travel. A lot of interesting stuff we could draw on for ideas for Bryce renders, not so?

To answer your question biker it only happened that once. Not sure of it's cause but it was interesting :) The methane theory has some merit because if I remember from some reports that they said the fog had an eerie green color to it but doesn't methane have an odor? You'd think that would be reported too. Not to mention flammable :)

little puzzled here... methane affecting compasses? hmmm methane affecting radio's? hmmm been thinking.. in recent years several mysteries have been solved.. like the Stardust... found after a glacier melted it out.. maybe soon we'll get the answer of the triangle.. tho it's not the only place where stuff disappears..

a ha! the ships sink in the wholes these huge bubbles leave behind, and the planes blow up when they hit all that gas...no reports smelling anything cause most likely, if they smelled it, it's already got them.. winks

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JC, hmmmm!!!!! b man: Your work has only begun. Draculaz, pay no attention to that guy behind the curtain, I aswume full responsability for the hijacking of this thread - again sorry, Agent Smith, Yes, I'm sure it is no coincidence. I'm almost certain Tim has been to Bermuda and that he is in some strange way, himself, Robin Hood. At least to us! I love you all in ther Platonic sense, - Robert of Huntingtom (bikermouse - who still wonders where Darth is, and if Darth will ever come through with the kangasroo jokes he promised and if little john will ever get TJ's bike running again.)

ROFLMAO......................you just got to love this place. 8D

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