Have you ever been in the middle of a two hour render, and your system (overloaded to the max, with nowhere near enough power for Bryce and anything else to be running at the same time) Crashes on you? Well I have, and it only took about 5 times of that happening for me to figure out to save the Bryce file at various states. This is an amateurish self portrait of what i do when i crash. Its not very good because i am not very talented LOL Thanks to Caligula for the rounded cube primitive. I am currently using this image as my wall paper..enjoy sincerely spaz