Sharen, first let me say how grateful I am of you and your husband's continuous generosity within the community and the wonderful models you give away every week. They are top notch. I wanted to ask if those models are supported in Poser 5. I had rendered a couple of them, very early models though: the piano and the phonograph, and they show some errors in both Firefly and Poser 4 renderer. They render fine in Poser 4 and ProPak. Here are two examples with the Piano and the phonograph. I think this might be a problem only with very early models but just wanted to ask cause i know some of Kozaburo's hair had problems with Firefly and there was a workaround were you give it a displacement value and it fixes it. Maybe there is some trick to make your models render correctly in Poser 5 that you might know?