gebe opened this issue on Nov 14, 2003 · 69 posts
gebe posted Fri, 14 November 2003 at 9:28 AM
Vue d'Esprit and Poser are widely recognized as perfect companion products to each other. But many have only been able to afford only 1 of these 2 products. Curious Labs and e-on software have teamed up to offer you this very special, pre-holiday savings, but only for a limited time!
Poser users can now get Vue d'Esprit 4.2 for ONLY $99. That's a 50% savings!
To get Vue d'Esprit 4.2, go to http://www.e-onsoftware.com/p5
Vue d'Esprit users can now get Poser 5 for Win. or OSX for ONLY $149. Again, a 50% savings!
To get Poser 5, go to www.curiouslabs.com/go/vueoffer
This offer is only good through November, 2003!
Vue d'Esprit 4.2 comes with 2 CDs, bursting with 30 SolidGrowth(tm)2 tree and plants, over 100 atmospheres, 100 types of clouds, 300 materials, 250 high quality fully textured 3D objects and over 50 example scenes. The perfect tool to create breathtaking atmospheres with a photorealistic renderer and lighting engine. The native Poser format can be directly imported into any Vue scene. Purchase now or register to qualify for this offer later. For more details on Vue d'Esprit, go to http://www.e-onsoftware.com/p5
Poser 5 is the ultimate tool for creating one the human form. Eloquently create amazingly easy, photorealistic characters with for both still and animated artwork. Poser gives you the power to create highly detailed, customized characters and scenes, yet also offers hundreds of libraries of ready-to-use characters, facial expressions, clothing, props and much more. Purchase now or register to qualify for this offer later. For more details on Poser, go to www.curiouslabs.com/go/vueoffer
kayjay97 posted Fri, 14 November 2003 at 10:03 AM
Hi Gebe! I am assuming if my version says Vue 4.20-02 I have the above version?
In a world filled with causes for worry and
anxiety...
we need the peace of God standing guard over our hearts and
minds.
Jerry McCant
gebe posted Fri, 14 November 2003 at 10:06 AM
Yes:-). This is the update from your previous Vue version. The special offer is meant for people who has no Vue copy yet:-)
kayjay97 posted Fri, 14 November 2003 at 10:10 AM
Thank you gebe. Just wanted to be sure LOL
In a world filled with causes for worry and
anxiety...
we need the peace of God standing guard over our hearts and
minds.
Jerry McCant
Benettor posted Fri, 14 November 2003 at 3:28 PM
Right!! So i went in curiouslabs.com for this very interesting offer... i saw the offer and i want to order, so (i have vue and I need Poser ) when i done checkout i saw for me delivery 100$ and the offer for the whole software is 149$ ..... Why so much money for delivery? i had order many softwares Like vue and never ever i paid so much money just for delivery... i like this offer 149$ but if i pay and this extra 100$ for delivery again i have the same price for the poser //// PLEASE someone from curiouslabs.com tell us for this problem..please if the want to has happy customers!!!for usa people are diferent price why for us ? somebody if live closer me tell me via IM how he order his copy of poser 5...
DMM posted Fri, 14 November 2003 at 3:38 PM
Yeah I got this offer through my email from E-On. Seems like a reasonable offer but I've got no interest in Poser unfortunately.
gebe posted Fri, 14 November 2003 at 4:03 PM
Benettor posted Fri, 14 November 2003 at 4:12 PM
Right!! So i went in curiouslabs.com for this very interesting offer... i saw the offer and i want to order, so (i have vue and I need Poser ) when i done checkout i saw for me delivery 100$ and the offer for the whole software is 149$ ..... Why so much money for delivery? i had order many softwares Like vue and never ever i paid so much money just for delivery... i like this offer 149$ but if i pay and this extra 100$ for delivery again i have the same price for the poser //// PLEASE someone from curiouslabs.com tell us for this problem..please if the want to has happy customers!!!for usa people are diferent price why for us ? somebody if live closer me tell me via IM how he order his copy of poser 5...
MightyPete posted Fri, 14 November 2003 at 4:55 PM
Gebe: for future refereance when that happens just highlight the text. But you get it right? he's saying the shipping cost is $100 bucks and the software is $149
MightyPete posted Fri, 14 November 2003 at 5:09 PM
Bizarre anyway. I went to both sites to try to purchace to test his problem.
Both sites
Where the hell is the purchase this offer now link?
I'm missing something...
Sure I get to buy it again at the regular price.. Where the hell is the special offer purchase link.
Sentinal posted Fri, 14 November 2003 at 5:18 PM
Owner of Vue to get Poser5 http://www.curiouslabs.com/go/vueoffer Owner of Poser to get Vue 4.2 http://www.e-onsoftware.com/p5
MightyPete posted Fri, 14 November 2003 at 6:23 PM
I already did that. When you get there where is the link button, anything, that says "get it like right now !" There is a link there to register for later but where is the link "get this offer ! pay cash ! now ! button? I'm sure it's there but it don't show up on Mozilla so the page code is C*ap !
STORM3 posted Fri, 14 November 2003 at 6:41 PM
Went to order Vue 4 and found the choice on the map to be UK or Europe.
I live in Ireland (the Republic) so I click on Europe and the price is 99 for the English Lang. version, which is fine. However, Ireland is not on the list of drop down European Union countries, Huh?
Went back to the UK page and yes Ireland is listed there, and those of us ordering from Ireland have to pay in UK (Sterling) even though we are are members of the Euro ().
So now I will have a currency conversion charge/cost on my CC.
I really think a company like Vue with its European heritage should be more aware of its enviorns.
As the French say "Vive La Republic!
How would USA online customers feel if they were shopping in a USA-based-site but classified under Canada or Central America and have to pay and convert through Canadian Dollars to get the product.
It just leaves a poor impression of the company.
gebe posted Sat, 15 November 2003 at 2:50 AM
I have tried at curiouslabs as if I wanted to buy Poser 5 (I have it already). I took my address in Paris and if I would buy, I would have to pay 71 $ for shipping!!!! That's crazy.
gebe posted Sat, 15 November 2003 at 2:52 AM
BTW Benettor, if you buy Poser for the full price, you would have to pay the shipping too:-(. I did so and it came very expensive, because I also had to pay the VAT when the object came to my house!! This is the problem of most European countries. Guitta
Benettor posted Sat, 15 November 2003 at 5:01 AM
very crazy :( this is the BIG problem Another reason for the piracy grow and grow... these money are not fear:(..anyway i dont know what i must do... 100$ are so much :(
gebe posted Sat, 15 November 2003 at 5:13 AM
The reason is that they send if by a "private" transporter, not by normal mail. And these transporters (UPS etc) are very expensive. On the other side, they are very sure too. With normal mail you never know if you get your object (my experience).
Benettor posted Sat, 15 November 2003 at 5:16 AM
I took my copy of vue with normal mail...POst and many other appl like that and never ever i had problem:(
gebe posted Sat, 15 November 2003 at 5:16 AM
And... private transporters are very fast. I got my Poser within 36 hours.
gebe posted Sat, 15 November 2003 at 5:24 AM
Me too for Vue. But at curiouslabs apparently we have no choice. Only one choice for me, the one for 71 $:-(. You know that Poser 3 was for free in many magazines a while ago. If you cannot afford P5 right now, maybe you may have a look in all sorts of computer magazines. I have one for free, but it is in French language, this would not help you, I think, otherwise I could send it to you. And there is no book of course.
Benettor posted Sat, 15 November 2003 at 5:47 AM
No :) Thnks guitta i know Poser very well.. i have a friend who has poser 4 and i work with it many times.. but now i want poser 5 just for my creation :) with vue ofcourse
Benettor posted Sat, 15 November 2003 at 5:50 AM
Only if someone buy for me from usa (usa Citizen) and i sent him the money via card:P I saw from amazon ,for usa people the poser cost 139 $..only no for us :((europe)_
jwhitham posted Sat, 15 November 2003 at 6:37 AM
I guess I must have caught Curious Labs at an, uncharacteristically, sensible momement when I bought Poser 4 (July 2002). It shipped from an agent in Ireland, got here (the UK) in 3 days and no extra tax to pay. How's this for sensible though? If I download an ESD upgrade from P4 to P5 from the European site it's 169 euro (approx. $189), from the US site it's $119 (approx. 101 euro). Are the phone line between here and the US much cheaper than those between here and Germany or something? John
MixedNut posted Sat, 15 November 2003 at 7:21 AM
MightyPete, it doesn't work in IE either - CL's webmaster must be out of town...brilliant. Hmm...when I try to order via the regular shop, I'm redirected to egisys.de which has no mention of this offer...what am I missing here? (I live in Denmark)
gebe posted Sat, 15 November 2003 at 7:27 AM
Guitta
jwhitham posted Sat, 15 November 2003 at 7:34 AM
If you hit the Web Store button, and you're in Europe, you get redirected to the German site. No offer listed there and downloads are MUCH more expensive!
gebe posted Sat, 15 November 2003 at 7:39 AM
You should NOT hit the Webstore button!!!
Benettor posted Sat, 15 November 2003 at 7:39 AM
Anyway Guitta i already order my copy of poser 5 5) Order Confirmation Thank you for your business. Your order has been completed Poser 5 - Full Version 1 $ 149.00 Shipping: $ 100.11 Total: $ 249.11 BUT the big but why the europian citizen are so stupid like me to pay so much money for nothing ... i mean for shipping:((((((((( Anyway everything for the ART...:)
Benettor posted Sat, 15 November 2003 at 7:43 AM
The german site @jwhitham is the web store for curius.. but the offer (vue-poser) is the link who guitta saw u...follow guittas's instructions!!!
Benettor posted Sat, 15 November 2003 at 7:45 AM
I hope to has everything inside the poser5 and the manual ...i wish:.. and no only the cd with software
gebe posted Sat, 15 November 2003 at 7:46 AM
You have now a nice Christmas present for yourself. Forget the price, eat pure rice for 3 weeks and be happy:-). Bying a software is always a "hole in the bourse", for me too:-( Guitta
Benettor posted Sat, 15 November 2003 at 8:04 AM
Yes Guitta but i saw many people who just enjoy this stuffs with piracy warez way and dont pay nothing for all of those no fear money... the companies must thinking about that and the people who want to pay some money for these softwares must keep well and happy... i think i am stupind who pay so much money for nothing ... Yes good christmas present :)
MixedNut posted Sat, 15 November 2003 at 8:04 AM
Okay, I misunderstood the layout (d'oh!), but I still think 80 dollars is too much. I also have to add duty (around 5%) and VAT on top of that (25%), plus the local Fedex handling charge (around 15). Nice offer, but I think I'll pass.. :(
gebe posted Sat, 15 November 2003 at 8:09 AM
Let's all live in USA:-)
jwhitham posted Sat, 15 November 2003 at 8:10 AM
Benettor, the German site is the web store for European customers, if you can get into the US purchase area - as the offer link allows - you can get some much better prices. I was just about to upgrade from Poser 4 to 5 - e-download, I don't really want the manual - for 169 Euro but, thanks to this link, I've just dowloaded for 101 Euro - saving 40%! Thanks Guitta!
Flycatcher posted Sat, 15 November 2003 at 8:54 AM
Just to add to the confusion, I've just received a mail shot from Eovia. It makes special upgrade and sidegrade offers to Carrara Studio 3, plus a separate Poser 5 sidegrade from any Eovia product. The cost of the Poser 5 sidegrade is 199 (incl. VAT) plus 10 post and package. As this was addressed to me as an "Eovia user", it looks as though it even applies to registered users of one of the free versions of Amapi that were issued on various cover disks not so long ago - that'c certainly the only product of theirs that I own. I have yet to confirm that, but it could be another interesting alternative way to purchase Poser 5. If any other UK user in a similar position wants to check up on the situation re the free Amapi versions, there is a phone number of 01526 352524, or email frank@eovia.com, or I guess visit the web site at www.eovia.com
MightyPete posted Sat, 15 November 2003 at 12:30 PM
I gave it brain damage, that page. I filled out the form and the shipping came to $122.21, Now there is a deal. How about pay full price and get free shipping instead?
wheatpenny posted Sat, 15 November 2003 at 3:45 PM Site Admin
I got Poser 5 on Ebay (Used once and not yet registered) for $100. Everything was still with it (even the ads that CL sticks in the box with it, and the cellophane wrapper the CD sleeve was in) As soon as it arrived I was able to register it with CL as the original owner. All that for only $100 + about 12.50 shipping.
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Benettor posted Sat, 15 November 2003 at 4:15 PM
wheatpenny posted Sat, 15 November 2003 at 4:19 PM Site Admin
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Benettor posted Sat, 15 November 2003 at 4:30 PM
Yes ...... look the start of the post here ... i live in europe and we have to pay much more money for shiping for everything ....You are lucky:)
wheatpenny posted Sat, 15 November 2003 at 4:40 PM Site Admin
Some people on eBay will ship internationally ; and they usually don't charge $75 or $100 for shipping either...
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Benettor posted Sat, 15 November 2003 at 4:54 PM
I went there and i saw ebay with 139$ poser 5 from amazon but when i want to order they told me they can not :(
grunthor posted Sun, 16 November 2003 at 9:01 PM
Isn't there a Euopean version of Amazon.com? Something similar to Amazon.co.uk?
MightyPete posted Sun, 16 November 2003 at 10:04 PM
Attached Link: http://www.amazon.co.uk/
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STORM3 posted Mon, 17 November 2003 at 3:38 AM
Germany http://www.amazon.de/ France http://www.amazon.fr/ There is a Danish one as well and a Japanese one.
Benettor posted Mon, 17 November 2003 at 5:26 AM
grunthor posted Mon, 17 November 2003 at 8:52 AM
That's too bad Benettor. I was hoping the savings in shipping from a European based Amazon would make up for pricing differences.
wabe posted Mon, 17 November 2003 at 10:12 AM
One day your ship comes in - but you're at the airport.
gebe posted Mon, 17 November 2003 at 10:24 AM
Walther, I have tested to order with an imaginative German address, but I get 71$ for the shipping. How is your's possible. Can you try to tell us exactly what you did? Have you ordered on the given page or somewhere else? In Germany maybe? Guitta
Benettor posted Mon, 17 November 2003 at 10:27 AM
I can not beleive:(((((((((( wabe i ordered also and my shipping was 100$ serius :( when i put my order the only way was with 100 fedex shiping .. i can not understand... Guitta must doing something about that ..please !!! 5 $ with 100 $ big diference:(
wabe posted Mon, 17 November 2003 at 11:03 AM
Thats why i didn't answered over the weekend. I wanted to double check. I did nothiing special - that was the trick. I went through the given link to the page, clicked onto the Mac version and went out.In the end i was surprised that nobody asked me for a Vue serial number or anything like that. I simply clicked on it and went. In the beginning fedex was greyed out, so i reloaded the page - as far as i can remember. I only remember that i was surprised, that there was no price difference between fedex ground and fedex 2 days delievery. I tested that. So i decided to order it like i did. What you see here is the confirmation email from CL. I will try it again tomorrow morning. I must run now. Who will buy the second copy from me if it works? Lol.
One day your ship comes in - but you're at the airport.
MightyPete posted Mon, 17 November 2003 at 2:31 PM
I already figured out that before. If your address is goofed up somehow the shipping will be $5.00 but hey you'll never get it that price I don't think. Reloading that page must have the same effect.
Benettor posted Mon, 17 November 2003 at 2:44 PM
that @wabe Happened and for me when i saw only shipping with 100 $ i reload the page and i saw and the others shipping but this is not truth if u reading the faq for international customers u can see only express fedex shipping.. but i dont know if that is fear or corect.. we wait for your order....... Good luck
shante posted Mon, 17 November 2003 at 8:06 PM
I feel for you guys. I got an e-mail from them with these offers. I went to the site and did find the links but it took a lot of button pushing and hair pulling. When i found it I couldn't think of why I was going to get it because I had a poopload of questions to ask and didn't know who to ask. One of the vendors here suggested I come to this forum and very carefully word out my needs and see what got tossed back at me. I won't ask it here though I don't wanna get flamed. But I found that the best way to get around any web service snafus is to find a good phone number or e-mail address and barrage someone in their customer service departments with all my gripes and questions. You get a few things done this way: 1. something in writing they have to honor. 2. customer satisfaction...if lucky and persistent. 3. an opportunity to hear what needs to be said and/or heard from the horse's mouth leaving less room for conjecture and hyperbol. E-mail someone there from the site itself and voice your questions and I am sure if they want to sell you a product you will hear from someone...eventually. it may not be what you want to hear/read but at least you can say you tried making a difference.
ggriffaw posted Mon, 17 November 2003 at 9:38 PM
I ordered Poser 5 from Amazon for $139 with free shipping. This is for a U.S. address. I got an email from Amazon saying it has been shipped, but it has not arrived yet. I guess that means that the order went through.
gebe posted Tue, 18 November 2003 at 9:30 AM
As this feature was not clear, I have asked e-o what's about the register thingy on their page. I got an answer: If you cannot buy right now, but you will buy, you can register at e-on's site. You must register (limited time!!) before November 30, 2003 but then you can buy (and pay) later, even only in a few month. I hope you like that:-) Guitta
wabe posted Wed, 19 November 2003 at 2:25 AM
Just to keep you informed. Today i recieved the message that my Poser is shipped (11/18) and will arrive probably the 11/24. Well, this is not two days delivery as i ordered, but for 5$ i dont want to be too pushy. I'll keep you informed. :-)) Walther
One day your ship comes in - but you're at the airport.
wabe posted Wed, 19 November 2003 at 2:34 AM
Ok, I, think i know now what i have done differently to you all. I tried it again and it worked again. I think it simply is a wrong programmed html page. I ordered a copy and checked out. When i came to the delievery page, everything was greyed out, exept the international fedex thingie - $ 71.xx . I didn't clicked it and went on. Of course the porzess sent me back to select something - AND, ta ta, all is selectable. So i selected the 5$ shipment. Now i am curious what CL will do - and what they will charge me for the delievery. But i promise, i will fight hard and i have a legal protection insurance if they want to charge more!
One day your ship comes in - but you're at the airport.
gebe posted Wed, 19 November 2003 at 3:04 AM
Silke posted Wed, 19 November 2003 at 10:10 AM
Re Poser5 in Europe I was horrified when I saw the price difference between US / UK Amazon.com - Poser5 full boxed - $139 (on offer and has been for months) Amazon.co.uk - Exact same product - 349.99 (That's $594.91) (never been on offer - ever) Now, add to that the tax. US (I think around 12% is high?) = $16.68 (on the $139) That works out at $155.68 (91.58) UK (17.5% tax) = 61.25 ($114.11) So the UK deal works out at 411.24 ($699.05) It's not shipped yet and there is a difference of a whopping $543.37 (319.68) Same company - different country.
Silke
elgyfu posted Thu, 20 November 2003 at 7:56 AM
Look on the bright side - I paid well over 300 for Poser 5. Still, I just got the Vue offer for 86 (including shipping) to here is (not so) sunny England.
wabe posted Mon, 24 November 2003 at 5:42 AM
I said i'll keep you informed. Today the package from CL via Fedex arrived - hurray. Well, a bit longer than the 2 days delivery, but i don't want to be picky. Strangely enough, there are no shipping costs on the invoice that came with the package. None at all. Only 149$ for the software. BUT,i had to pay VAT because of importing software to Germany. 32.43 Euros. Not a big thing for me, because i will get that back in my tax declaration, but you should know. I will inform you what Visa will take away from my account. Am i curious enough to install it this afternoon? We will see. :-)) Walther
One day your ship comes in - but you're at the airport.
gebe posted Mon, 24 November 2003 at 5:48 AM
GREAT to know Walther. hanks a bunch:-) Guitta
kahshe posted Tue, 25 November 2003 at 11:52 PM
Attached Link: http://www.pearceempire.com
Here's another story on this big offer, e-on, and Curios labs both sent me an email with that offer, the day after I'd bought Vue4. I already have Poser4&5, so I emailed them, but they havn't answered. Do you think I should get more pushy on this , it was quite madening. Here in Canada we get pretty burned on the money exchange, although the shipping wasn't to bad, took a week and a half though, then I had to pay import duty, and it snowed today,brrrrrrrr.
MightyPete posted Wed, 26 November 2003 at 12:01 AM
Well at least they should have told you to wait a day.
kahshe posted Wed, 26 November 2003 at 2:08 AM
I will try to talk to them again, but sometimes you get a thill from a bad thing. That was my first post, and you replied, thanks MightyPete, your support was appreciated.
MightyPete posted Wed, 26 November 2003 at 2:26 AM
A after thought I had is to really look carefully at the date on your charge card. It's possible the charge was not instant and happened on the next day if that's the case well then you did pay too much and deserve a rebate. I'm sure E-On is reasonable though. It's like say you bought Vue 4 today and Vue 5 came out tommorrow. I'm sure they will let you have the new version if there the same price.
wabe posted Wed, 03 December 2003 at 7:26 AM
I promissed to keep you updated. Curious Lab charged my Visa card. 154$, as the invoice said. So i was really lucky with the shipment costs. But Poser 5 for Mac is not the fastest program in the world. Boring to see a rotating cursor for a looooong time! Hope you are as lucky as i am, Walther
One day your ship comes in - but you're at the airport.