I just wanted to say what a great help Vue D'Esprit is for Poser... like, I've been wanting to do this kind of renders for MONTHS, and I couldn't accomplish any of this neither with Poser nor Bryce 5 nor mojoworld nor anything else.

I was building this huge city in poser, all time wasted now, because building the city in Vue is much more easier and system resource friendly... still, some of the buildings are actually Poser .pz3 scenes imported into Vue, they integrate so well...

I sound like a commercial for vue, but it's just that I'm really happy that I can overcome the frustration caused by Poser... Poser is great for that: for Posing, but for everything else, you have to outsource, definately... Vue is still flawed, but not as much as Poser.

and I'm glad that Vue actually renders only what's on screen, and it's not rendering that whole offscreen mountain on your back while you're trying to render a small ball prop in front of you...

still, Vue on its own probably wouldn't be that great, so I'm just recognizing the amazing power you can get by mixing both programs... that whole building in the back is just a solid block with a Glass window material (or was it glass tower?)...

so if you need to do heavy stuff with poser like me (I'm making a graphic novel, the post is somewhere else here at 'rosity) and you haven't ever tried Vue, well, give it a try.

gosh, and I ended up sounding like a Vue salesman anyway... darnit.

Max