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Well, back to doing some technical tests. Anyway, this is a method for creating realistic metal hilights. You can start with any of the metalic presets in bryce, I just used one of my own but any of those will do (preferably the silverish collored ones or blotchy silver christmas balls if you want discoloration) Anyway, after looking at a few cut metal cups that were slightly brushed, I realized that light reflects off of these differently than it reflects off of glass. There appear to be long streams of light moving down the cup, using traditional methods for reflections, this is not possible in bryce (using standard lights) So, I just used the next logical (simple) solution. Build hilights using alpha planes. See next reply /