I am wondering... Remember some time ago I was asking about why P5 keeps freezing and bombing out when I change lights? (ok some lights) Well I emailed CL about it back then, since I am not the only one who has this problem. I told them that Poser 5 reacts really badly to Null lights. i.e. if some lights are turned off, and you try to render, it bombs out, usually taking the scene with it. I had a reply last night, and apparently they cannot reproduce this (which I find hard to believe, it's not THAT random) If anyone has a specific way of actually MAKING this happen, please share it so I can see if this happens when I do it as well. If yes, I can give CL some concrete steps to reproduce it and maybe - just maybe - they'll look at this. Basically... they blamed "3rd party lights" for the trouble... I don't think it's just 3rd party lights. Besides, isn't any light we add and save a third party light since it wasn't created by CL??? I mean... sorry, but I think that's a stupid excuse. If Word crashed every other time when I open the spellchecker, I doubt anyone would say "Ah well, but if you use the default words in the dictionary it won't crash." I could probably sit there and try to recreate the lights from a lighting package and see if it crashes the system (and it doesn't do it every time either) but I really don't want to go that far lol So it would really help if you guys could share your experiences with crashing scenes and lights. Silke

Silke