Rochr opened this issue on Nov 26, 2003 ยท 74 posts
Rochr posted Wed, 26 November 2003 at 9:43 AM
Attached Link: http://www.meiselsworld.de/deepdance.php
Sorry for the last post... :) Anyway, yesterday i got a tip that my images were being used for these CDs, and apparently, im not the only one. Ive spotted EYECONs work as well. (sorry man) The asshole responsible for these illegal CDs are german and unfortunatly i havent been able to locate his page...yet, but ive found images of several of the covers on another webpage. If anyone spot a webpage dealing with these CDs, ild appreciate it.Rudolf Herczog
Digital Artist
www.rochr.com
bazze posted Wed, 26 November 2003 at 9:56 AM
Looks like a lot of Bryce / Poser made covers... Which one uses your images?
www.colacola.se
woodhurst posted Wed, 26 November 2003 at 10:00 AM
omg, thats quite retarded. bah i hate people----i dont think the cd's are even legit, looking at how many of them there were. oh well---i'll keep my eyes open, but until then good luck...
bazze posted Wed, 26 November 2003 at 10:04 AM
I think they are legal. The one publishing these collections is: "Warner Music Group Germany Hol (Wsm)"
www.colacola.se
bazze posted Wed, 26 November 2003 at 10:10 AM
Search the web for "Deep Dance" and web pages in German. You will find a lot of these CD's.
www.colacola.se
Rochr posted Wed, 26 November 2003 at 10:30 AM
Well, there is a legit series called Deep Dance, however these are ripped compilations for less talented DJs. Theres apparently an idiot fanclub called Mix Point, and so far ive only seen shut-down pages where they deal with these CDs. But the guy on a Swedish Graphics Forum, that tipped me in the first place, noticed "Dawn" on their new release. Still trying to get a URL from him. Im not a big fan of RIAA, but if i get a URL and a name, ill be pointing them in that direction...at least they have the means to act. ...and these f...s will pay in one way or another...
Rudolf Herczog
Digital Artist
www.rochr.com
Incarnadine posted Wed, 26 November 2003 at 11:47 AM
Is it possible to determine the ISP of this site. A C&D request letter should be sufficient to have it pulled. You might be able to get the offenders info from their domain registration.
Pass no temptation lightly by, for one never knows when it may pass again!
derjimi posted Wed, 26 November 2003 at 12:06 PM
The above guy is only showing the covers, not creating or distributing it. Anyway, he has copyrighted Material (your works as Cover) on his webpage. Snip from: Denic.de (Domain registration service germany) ---------------------------------- Domain hoster: Mark-Tim Junghanns Vangerow Internet Services Vangerow System Werkstaetten Industriestrasse 18 72585 Riederich Germany Phone +49 7123 9387 0 Fax: +49 7123 9387 654 E-Mail: mjunghanns@vangerow.de Domain holder (the guy who builds that weppage): Domain: meiselsworld.de Markus Meissner Juchtlenstrasse 31 72124 Pliezhausen Germany ---------------------------------- So you can both contact the owner/ builder of that page or his ISP which hosts it. That will not help against distributing these CDs though. J.
derjimi posted Wed, 26 November 2003 at 12:09 PM
If you want to, I can send the webmaster - obviously a young german guy - a mail and demand to delete these covers. I'm german, so the language is no problem for me. Ok? J.
MadDog31 posted Wed, 26 November 2003 at 12:21 PM
Jesus, he sure didn't hide the fact he was using them...Rochr's art stuck out like a sore thumb...unbelievable. :( MD
Rochr posted Wed, 26 November 2003 at 12:23 PM
Derjimi, Thanx a lot for the info pal! :) I did find a mail adress in the page source, (markusmei@web.de), and have sent a message, giving him a few days to delete the images. However, i think a message in German would be a lot better, and if you have the time to send him one, ild be most grateful. :)
Rudolf Herczog
Digital Artist
www.rochr.com
derjimi posted Wed, 26 November 2003 at 12:33 PM
Ok, I send him a german mail and request to delete these covers. J.
Rochr posted Wed, 26 November 2003 at 12:40 PM
Thanx man! I owe you a couple! :) I guess this is the price for having images posted on the web. Sooner or later, they will be snatched by some loosers. :(
Rudolf Herczog
Digital Artist
www.rochr.com
derjimi posted Wed, 26 November 2003 at 12:49 PM
Rudy, look at the bright side of life: your works a so fantastic everyone wants to have and use it. ;-)) Just kidding. My mail: --- Guten Abend, in der Kategorie "Deep Dance" Ihrer Homepage www.meiselsworld.de hosten Sie copyrightgeschze Bilder ohne erlaubnis der jeweilogen Urheber. So findet sich u.a. in der Kategorie "Deep Dance 80 - 86" unter http://mitglied.lycos.de/meiselsworld2002/galerie/deep_dance_86-05_a.jpg und http://mitglied.lycos.de/meiselsworld2002/galerie/deep_dance_86-05_a_klein.jpg ein Cover, in dem eine Arbeit von Rudolf 'Rochr' Herczog verwendet wurde. Auch auf weiteren Covern lassen sich Verste gegen das Urheberrecht feststellen. Details liefere ich gerne bei Bedarf nach. Ich bitte Sie daher umgehend die Dateien zu entfernen. Sollten die copyrightgeschzen Inhalte nach Ablauf von 48 Stunden weiterhin auf Ihrer Domain verfbar sein behalten sich die Urheber rechtliche Schritte vor. Gleichzeitig werden Domain- und Webspacehoster benachrichtigt. Vielen Dank, Daniel Pxxx im Auftrag von R. Herczog ---- Sorry, I'm to lazy to translate it. I ask for deleting in the next 48 hours mainly. Take care, Jimi
Rochr posted Wed, 26 November 2003 at 12:55 PM
Actually, there were 2 more. :) But it doesnt matter, i think he gets the point... Hey, if you ever need something translated into/from Swedish, just let me know. :)
Rudolf Herczog
Digital Artist
www.rochr.com
derjimi posted Wed, 26 November 2003 at 1:08 PM
I wrote him that several more images are copyright protected and that I can mail him details if the wants to. So I hope he deletes the entire gallery. Would be the best. Call me bad, hehe... ;-))) You're more than welcome, Rochr! Jimi
Rochr posted Wed, 26 November 2003 at 1:26 PM
Well, its always a relaxing thought, that guys like these get whats coming to them. Eventually, they always do. Million dollar fines, jail, a knife in the back, concrete shoes..etc :)
Rudolf Herczog
Digital Artist
www.rochr.com
derjimi posted Wed, 26 November 2003 at 1:29 PM
Don't overrate this guy. As I said - he was only collecting the covers and has nothing to do with the creator of the compilations, I think. Personally, I don't know how I'd react when I would see a work of mine as a cover. I think I'd be proud in first place. But it can be annoying to see your own work spread everywhere I guess. I don't know that feeling. ;-) But you're right - copyrights are needful and important.
Rochr posted Wed, 26 November 2003 at 1:52 PM
Yeah, he seems innocent enough, and hes not my big problem, its the people releasing the CDs. Must admit though, that according to everything ive read when searching for the cds, was that they are a limited release, and thats nice, not acceptable, but at least theyre not pumpin out millions of copies. Now, what if it was one of the BIG record labels. Im pretty sure they wouldnt want to pay either, and they have an arsenal of lawyers... I actually closed my webpage gallery last night when i found out, but i think im going to re-open it again. However, im going to resize the images there first and also delete some of the galleries. At least they wont get anything useful from that page.
Rudolf Herczog
Digital Artist
www.rochr.com
derjimi posted Wed, 26 November 2003 at 2:23 PM
He deleted the whole category. Strike!
Rochr posted Wed, 26 November 2003 at 2:33 PM
Man, he worked fast on that one! :)
Rudolf Herczog
Digital Artist
www.rochr.com
drawbridgep posted Wed, 26 November 2003 at 2:55 PM
Means I won't get to see what he was doing. Good result though. Guess he didn't want to mess with the R'osity crew. Smart guy. :-) I notice he's got a message on his page saying he'll remove anything that's copyright. Was that there earlier, or an addition since he removed Rudy's pictures?
derjimi posted Wed, 26 November 2003 at 3:14 PM
That was there earlier. That "disclaimer" is always found on these sites. So they can "prove" that they don't mean to harm copyrights. Who needs to state that he removes copyrighted material on request when he don't fear it? You need to know to even excuse before someone's accusing. Means (sorry for my bad english): if he doesn't fear and know it, he wouldn't put that disclaimer on his homepage... J.
TheBryster posted Wed, 26 November 2003 at 3:46 PM
Back of the net, Guys!
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derjimi posted Wed, 26 November 2003 at 4:08 PM
Now that website is completly offline.
Rochr posted Wed, 26 November 2003 at 4:19 PM
Still there, without "deepdance.php". Ill check back in a couple of days, but since he did delete the images, hes ok with me. Lets just hope they stay that way.
Rudolf Herczog
Digital Artist
www.rochr.com
Zhann posted Wed, 26 November 2003 at 5:04 PM
The link above has been pulled. No page found. Right on!
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danamo posted Wed, 26 November 2003 at 5:15 PM
Glad that that was handled so quickly!
Zhann posted Wed, 26 November 2003 at 5:21 PM
If anybody ever sees any of my stuff, please let me know...
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danamo posted Wed, 26 November 2003 at 5:39 PM
You bet Zhann! I'd do that for any fellow artist here.
Rochr posted Wed, 26 November 2003 at 5:50 PM
Me to! Gotta look after the "family"... :)
Rudolf Herczog
Digital Artist
www.rochr.com
Flak posted Wed, 26 November 2003 at 6:01 PM
Oi, Rochr, its "da family" ;) Glad to see it got straightened out to some degree.
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JC_01 posted Wed, 26 November 2003 at 6:32 PM
ok ok call me stupid or tipsy or whatever...LOL I went to the site....took off the end line as said..to have a look..see what i could find lurking aournd...LMAO one problem.... ummmmmmmmm I dont' speak, read, type german....LMAO Rochr, You work is awesome man, and I'm always amazed by the talent on this site and the others around that host galleries. I'm very sorry to hear that people are stealin your work, bu tI hop ethis dont' deter you from posting it here to let us all have a jaw dropping gander at it.
Vile posted Wed, 26 November 2003 at 6:53 PM
Let me say this first I would want at least to be mentioned or asked to use my work as most anyone would. With that said let me continue
Like anyone would use you art work Zhann! (JK) ;) Geez U guys I would have felt flattered!
I will say this again. If you do not want your art used post lower format images here and host your own web page and place water marks on them. I know its rude and more then illegal but honestly I am not surprised are you? No offense Rochr your stuff is just so fantastic what do you expect?
Now had a created something I was getting paid for (not as a hobby) and someone RIPPED it off then that is a different story, but again I would ensure that this would be harder to do.
Quest posted Wed, 26 November 2003 at 8:49 PM
I would have loved to have seen the look on his face when he got the emails in 2 different languages. He must have turned ghost white! Good! It serves him well! Rochr, they didn't take you into consideration when they snatched your work and have probably made money on it so I think you shouldn't hesitate to get the RIAA involved or anyone else for that matter. Perhaps even getting the word out to those lesser DJs would help to put the fire on their ass. Just makes me sick!
d_hood posted Wed, 26 November 2003 at 10:17 PM
If his picture was at that website, what about other websites? I'm not surprised and I would be willing to bet that Rochrs work is plastered all over the net.
catlin_mc posted Wed, 26 November 2003 at 10:31 PM
Glad you got things sorted quick style. It's a sad business when losers like this just take without giving. One day their karma will definately jump up and bite them. Catlin
Rochr posted Wed, 26 November 2003 at 11:47 PM
Just one thing guys, this webpage just held the pics of the covers, so he was basically just a fan. Ive found an old page, www.deepdance.dk/site.htm, for the Mixpool fanclub, now i just have to find out where the active page is.
Rudolf Herczog
Digital Artist
www.rochr.com
catlin_mc posted Thu, 27 November 2003 at 12:03 AM
Try this link Rochr http://www.emmx.com/merchant/merchant.mvc?Screen=PROD&Product_Code=dee88h&Category_Code=newp
Rochr posted Thu, 27 November 2003 at 5:24 AM
Jackpot!!! OK, anyone know how to contact a lawyer about this?
Rudolf Herczog
Digital Artist
www.rochr.com
Zhann posted Thu, 27 November 2003 at 6:02 AM
There are some online law clinics where they can tell you where to start. Or you can use the yellow pages or post in the Community Forum, there might be a lawyer or two here at Rosity, Admin may be able to steer you in the right direction. If I were you I would definitely persue this, artist's get big bucks for doing cover art in the music industry, not to mention illegal use of a copyrighted work.
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Gog posted Thu, 27 November 2003 at 10:11 AM
Ask for $1 per album sold and retrospective credit :-)
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Ardiva posted Thu, 27 November 2003 at 10:26 AM
I could only imagine the "royalties" that are due you in this, not to mention the other monetary compensation.
catlin_mc posted Thu, 27 November 2003 at 10:32 AM
Was I right Rochr? I followed a link from the link you gave and it appears the CD's are made in Australia. Maybe Flak could help you get more info since that's where he comes from. Catlin
catlin_mc posted Thu, 27 November 2003 at 10:38 AM
BTW, I saved the page and the HTML code just in case they got wind of what you're doing and tried to delete it. So if you ever need the proof give me a shout. Catlin
Rochr posted Thu, 27 November 2003 at 10:54 AM
I honestly dont know what i would do without you guys. :)
Rudolf Herczog
Digital Artist
www.rochr.com
TheBryster posted Thu, 27 November 2003 at 11:10 AM
Rochr: Go broke?
Available on Amazon for the Kindle E-Reader
All the Woes of a World by Jonathan Icknield aka The Bryster
And in my final hours - I would cling rather to the tattooed hand of kindness - than the unblemished hand of hate...
Zhann posted Thu, 27 November 2003 at 6:01 PM
I also saved it, so you have collabrative proof between Catlin and me. Definitel;y demand royalities from every cd sold and sue for copyright infringement....;]
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woodhurst posted Thu, 27 November 2003 at 8:03 PM
awesome---jeez all of this went down in like 24 hours....the ol' brycers strike again....
Ardiva posted Thu, 27 November 2003 at 9:04 PM
JC_01 posted Thu, 27 November 2003 at 9:46 PM
hey you guys seen this page?
no artwrok, but if you could find out the same IP info stuff may lead to who's stealin the work...
also found This
Ardiva posted Thu, 27 November 2003 at 10:21 PM
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Ardiva posted Thu, 27 November 2003 at 10:26 PM
========================================= Information from whois.denic.de (Querying "deepdance.de") .de domain are registered in Germany ==================================== deepdance.de descr: Andreas Peine descr: Brueggerfeld 6 descr: D-46514 Schermbeck descr: Germany nserver: ns11.schlund.de nserver: ns12.schlund.de status: connect changed: 20030815 102614 source: DENIC [admin-c] Type: PERSON Name: Andreas Peine Address: Brueggerfeld 6 City: Schermbeck Pcode: 46514 Country: DE Remarks: ACTION NEW Remarks: ID [#6538193/6087953] Changed: 20030404 090910 Source: DENIC [tech-c][zone-c] Type: PERSON Name: Puretec Hostmaster Address: 1&1 Internet AG Address: Erbprinzenstr. 4-12 City: Karlsruhe Pcode: 76133 Country: DE Phone: +49 1908 70700 Fax: +49 1805 001372 Email: hostmaster@puretec.de Remarks: ACTION UPDATE Remarks: ID [#5255780/5105904] Changed: 20020813 115806 Source: DENIC ============================================= deepdance.de resolves to IP address 212.227.118.98 www.deepdance.de resolves to IP address 212.227.118.98 Home page title: "Deep 2003 Trackliste" Server (deepdance.de) responded successfully (179 msecs) ======================================== ====================================== Information from whois.arin.net (Querying "212.227.118.98") ==================================== OrgName: RIPE Network Coordination Centre OrgID: RIPE Address: Singel 258 Address: 1016 AB City: Amsterdam StateProv: PostalCode: Country: NL ReferralServer: whois://whois.ripe.net NetRange: 212.0.0.0 - 212.255.255.255 CIDR: 212.0.0.0/8 NetName: RIPE-NCC-212 NetHandle: NET-212-0-0-0-1 Parent: NetType: Allocated to RIPE NCC NameServer: NS.RIPE.NET NameServer: NS2.NIC.FR NameServer: SUNIC.SUNET.SE NameServer: AUTH03.NS.UU.NET NameServer: SEC1.APNIC.NET NameServer: SEC3.APNIC.NET NameServer: TINNIE.ARIN.NET Comment: These addresses have been further assigned to users in Comment: the RIPE NCC region. Contact information can be found in Comment: the RIPE database at http://www.ripe.net/whois RegDate: 1997-11-14 Updated: 2003-09-19 OrgTechHandle: RIPE-NCC-ARIN OrgTechName: RIPE NCC Hostmaster OrgTechPhone: +31 20 535 4444 OrgTechEmail: search-ripe-ncc-not-arin@ripe.net # ARIN WHOIS database, last updated 2003-11-27 19:15 # Enter ? for additional hints on searching ARIN's WHOIS database. ========================================== 212.227.118.98 resolves to kundenserver.de Server (212.227.118.98) responded successfully (180 msecs)
Rochr posted Thu, 27 November 2003 at 11:45 PM
OK guys, some progress. His CDs are down, and the guys name is Allan Badra, still waiting for some more information about him. I also contacted RIAA yesterday, and pointed them to the page. Just hope theyve had time to check it out, because as it looks, the better part of the cds are illegal. The web is slowly closing in...
Rudolf Herczog
Digital Artist
www.rochr.com
Quest posted Fri, 28 November 2003 at 12:00 AM
Oh, I think that's great progress!
Ardiva posted Fri, 28 November 2003 at 12:01 AM
Good going Rochr. I hope you sue the hell outta 'em!! Shall I take off the 2 latest IP address posts I made?
Zhann posted Fri, 28 November 2003 at 12:36 AM
Ardiva,leave them, nothing should be deleted from this thread and someone should save it, another paper trail of sorts.
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EYECON posted Fri, 28 November 2003 at 4:59 AM
mmmmm i came in too late i guess... okay things has been said and i like to thank ROCHR for telling me that i too was ripped off not that it happened the first time... some guys are actually using some of my works as book covers here locally ahahahah! but thats okay... were cool... to rochr talent speaks and people see thats y you get ripped off... i only wish that they would understand the labor behind the images is hard and if they want to use they should pay us artist royalties. another bad news rochr, a local tshirt company that makes well tshirts with designs has use 2 or more images that u made. although he or she or they have embedded it with other images i can still see clearly the images that you made.. image 1: your winning rederosity cover image 2: your mecha head... remember? girl with half mecha head too bad i can post a pic. an much worse since you can pursue any lawsuit coz we dont have it here yet... im mean computer image stealing... anyway more power and i do hope nobody rips you off again (an me too)
Rochr posted Fri, 28 November 2003 at 7:19 AM
You have a name on that T-shirt company? I can always send them a message! Other then that, ill see if i can get any more info about this Allan. Theres probably not much i can do, other then to learn from this, and prevent it from happening again. But i will send everything i get to RIAA, and perhaps they can find something out. This sucks, but this has already taken up WAY to much of my time...and yours. :)
Rudolf Herczog
Digital Artist
www.rochr.com
derjimi posted Fri, 28 November 2003 at 11:29 AM
Hi Rochr, hi Eyecon, a small update from the webmaster of Meiselsworld.de: he mailed me and asked for permission to show the covers on his page again. I have written him that permission will not be granted, especially because of the copyright violations and the fact that the Deep Dance compilations are illegal bootleg mixes. --- I hope this answer is ok for you. I've done some research on the web. The Deep Dance compilations were once created by a "Dj Deep" in germany. In 2000, after investigations by german police and attorney DJ Deep stopped to release these samplers. They are still being produced by other fans of that mixes, and these mixes are illegal further on. Take Care, Jimi
Rochr posted Fri, 28 November 2003 at 11:39 AM
Thanx a lot man! A good answer! :) Yeah, the only thing that could at least scare those fans, is if RIAA actually bust someone and let them pay a few Mil in fines.
Rudolf Herczog
Digital Artist
www.rochr.com
Quest posted Fri, 28 November 2003 at 1:56 PM
Yes, Rochr, having a little experience in copyright infringement, chances are that you wont get any financial compensation but the defendants will probably get a stiff warning about using copyrighted stuff in the future. This is assuming this goes to litigation. Further, it would more than likely win you financial compensation if you had filed for official copyright and gotten a copyright registration number for the article/articles. This would help you in retaining legal counsel and in the reversing legal expenses to the defendant if they should lose the case. Then, assuming again litigation, you can pursue for royalties and possible damages (suppose the music your covers are associated with are of a negative nature). And chances are that somehow, you must have a legal presence, perhaps not you but someone to legally represent your side, at the trial.
d_hood posted Fri, 28 November 2003 at 4:56 PM
I don't know if anyone has suggested this or not, but have you ever thought about watermarks? I'm not sure how bad it would degrade the picture or if it would even work. Not only is this copyright infringement, but the fact that the pictures are on illegal cds makes it even worse. Talk about tarnishing your name.
Rochr posted Fri, 28 November 2003 at 5:10 PM
Well, ive just changed to tagged images. The thing is, that this solution really sucks, and i cant say i like putting a huge "Rochr" all over the images.
Rudolf Herczog
Digital Artist
www.rochr.com
d_hood posted Fri, 28 November 2003 at 5:20 PM
When I went to that one link that had those cds on them, I thought I saw other cds with art covers. I wonder if these were stolen too, and if they were, who do they belong to?
Ardiva posted Fri, 28 November 2003 at 5:53 PM
Erlik posted Sat, 29 November 2003 at 4:49 PM
Quest, Rochr's copyright was never in question. He didn't have to obtain any kind of number in advance. He still can do that now, prior to any possible litigation.
Check Brad Templeton's page on copyright. He's a long-time denizen of the net and he knows what he speaks of.
Rochr, check Copyright Website. They can help you register your work now.
-- erlik
derjimi posted Sat, 29 November 2003 at 5:10 PM
Ardiva, tagged means you put your name across your work. J.
Ardiva posted Sat, 29 November 2003 at 6:56 PM
Ok..got the 'tagged' thingy. What would I do without you guys! :-) I guess putting a little sig in a corner of our image isn't going to stop the villians any. But when it's splashed across the width of the image..that'll do it!
Quest posted Sat, 29 November 2003 at 8:44 PM
Erlik, I didn't say his copyright was ever in question. Having had some of my work stolen and having gone for legal counsel, the information related to me at the time, early 90's (there about) is what I was offering up to Rochr. Although it shouldn't be necessary, people often find that when formalities with paperwork and protocols are followed, especially when monies transfer hands, things sometimes go according to plan.
Erlik posted Sun, 30 November 2003 at 3:26 AM
Ah, sorry, didn't mean that. I was just quibbling with the tense used.
-- erlik
Rochr posted Sun, 30 November 2003 at 10:32 AM
Thanx for the tips! Ill be sure to check those links out Erlik! :)
Rudolf Herczog
Digital Artist
www.rochr.com
EYECON posted Sun, 30 November 2003 at 5:08 PM
Attached Link: http://www.penshoppe.com/
rochr here is the site of the tshirt company that used a few of your images,but i doubt that they have a picture of the design... nor they knew that one of their artist took the liberty of using ur images without permission just see what u can do about it tnx! www.penshoppe.com eyecon
rickymaveety posted Sun, 30 November 2003 at 6:19 PM
Well, Rochr, as for tagging your images, it doesn't spoil my own enjoyment of them. You do what you have to do to protect your interest in your work, and don't worry about the rest of it.
Could be worse, could be raining.