I'm thinking of fiddling around with terragen..I used a demo version of it..came up with something that I didn't know how the hell I did it..but it was pretty good..for landscapes, that is. Any ideas on it, anyone? How does it compare with Bryce? I believe render times are a fraction compared to bryce..haha.. I actually like the water.. filling is really easy, compared to bryce, etc.. and I believe the skies are magnificent..esp what I've seen in other images. Don't throw shoes at me..I'm just asking...