i saw the interface of Daz studio and it looks like a simple progie....i get the feeling that P5 will actualy be better.....there arent that many features.....just a "pose, material, and render room" as i remember...... but seriously, what's the purpose in having another renderer that looks like, at the most, will only be as good as Poser 5? i think DAZ is partly capitalizing on the fact that many people are frustrated with curious labs and this is a good opportunity to cash in by taking away some angry CL customers.... i think many CL customers also dive into this in denial mode...thinking that this will be a solution to their 3D problems in light of Poser 5....but actually they dont want to think about the possiblity that DAZ Studio will be nothing more than a simple renderer that just got too much attention. i personally think DAZ is hype....first, not counting the excellent free models out there like MayaDoll, etc. DAZ is pretty much a Microsoft of Poser related content...theyre the only ones who really develop the heavyweight Poser content like figures (Vicky, M3, etc.).....when was the last time RuntimeDNA released their very own Vicky? DAZ is pretty much a "monopoly" like business in the Poser world (at least). second, I have purchased a couple of DAZ items and ALL OF THEM SHOULD HAVE HAD A CAUTION SIGN THAT SAYS "WARNING: YOUR NEWLY PURCHASED ITEM WILL NOT WORK RIGHT AWAY. SCRATCH YOUR HEAD AND BLOW ON YOUR MOUSE TWO TIMES, THEN START THE INSTALLER" 1. i got the V3 Bombshell hair and now its sitting on my HD cause Poser 5 hangs up whenever i load it (alone or conformed). many people on this forum also reported this when I posted for help. 2. i didnt learn my lesson so i made a second purchase. this time i got the Las Vegas Hair. it looks kewl as heaven....but i later realized it won't conform to V3. DAZ reported an update (V3 Fitter) for the hair but didnt bother to give me a hint where i could find the update. that helped me a lot. if it wasnt for your help my purchase wouldve been partly a waste. 3. i still didnt learn my lesson....this time i got Tailor 1.5. the thing wont install from 1.1.....i had to dig up my ohhh soooo old Tailor 1.03 burned on some age old back up CD-R i made ooohhhhh soooo long ago its embarrasing...what if i didn't find that CD-R? another wasted purchase..... was sup with that?