Hey thanks Mark..that worked out perfect. I never even think to make use of those switches in AE or Photoshop either :( Bad News: The 3 days I was promised are gone and now Im down to 24 hours...but I did a hybrid render and the spot was passible. Not my shining achievement I envisioned tho. I wish I could have had my 3 weeks to make it look right..but what do I care...I get paid the same :) Good News: The spot is pretty much done..its running through AE now and then Ill ruin it with a bit of CG and hopefully the powers that be will be happy. Also thanks everyone for the help. As thanks Ill put up the semi (in free stuff) when I post the spot. Some may find it to primitive but hey, Im proud of it :) Anyways look for the spot on mon :) -brent.