zai opened this issue on Dec 24, 2003 ยท 93 posts
zai posted Wed, 24 December 2003 at 6:19 PM
I just downloaded the PC version!..Go get um guys! BTW....the PC version is 40 megs.... Merry Xmas!
Mazak posted Wed, 24 December 2003 at 6:21 PM
zai posted Wed, 24 December 2003 at 6:24 PM
ARRRgggand now I gotta leave to my mother's! It ain't FAIR Santy Claws!
Crescent posted Wed, 24 December 2003 at 6:33 PM
I'm stuck at work! Oh, I wanna play!!!
Barbarellany posted Wed, 24 December 2003 at 6:41 PM
No Mac version??????
cherokee69 posted Wed, 24 December 2003 at 6:46 PM
I got it!!!
Mazak posted Wed, 24 December 2003 at 6:47 PM
Here in Germany its 2 o'clock in the morning. I cook some coffee and wait the download is finished. 41 MB is huge file I only have ISDN :( Mazak
Jackson posted Wed, 24 December 2003 at 6:48 PM
Screenshots...renders!!! What's taking so long?
Penguinisto posted Wed, 24 December 2003 at 6:48 PM
There's a feature in there that lets you report bugs and such, but you can also use it to request additional features, functionality, and cosmetic improvements as well! Use it... it's a good thing :) /P
pakled posted Wed, 24 December 2003 at 6:55 PM
on my way..thank heavens I haven't left for the parental units..;)
I wish I'd said that.. The Staircase Wit
anahl nathrak uth vas betude doth yel dyenvey..;)
SamTherapy posted Wed, 24 December 2003 at 6:56 PM
Downloading! Wheeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee!
Coppula eam se non posit acceptera jocularum.
pakled posted Wed, 24 December 2003 at 7:04 PM
feh..Platinum Club only..hafta wait.
I wish I'd said that.. The Staircase Wit
anahl nathrak uth vas betude doth yel dyenvey..;)
jjsemp posted Wed, 24 December 2003 at 7:09 PM
Got it. Just finished downloading. Gonna play with it now! -jjsemp
raptordude posted Wed, 24 December 2003 at 7:12 PM
Just got it ......1min 13sec to download....about to wet my pants hheheheh gotta play raptordude P.S. Thanks DAZ
SamTherapy posted Wed, 24 December 2003 at 7:13 PM
sigh Still installing content to P5.
Coppula eam se non posit acceptera jocularum.
FishNose posted Wed, 24 December 2003 at 7:14 PM
Peng, I'll use that report feature to ask for the "Create Art" button that we all expect from our 3D apps. I mean, do they expect us to do the arty bit ourselves???? :] Fish
Zrincx posted Wed, 24 December 2003 at 7:14 PM
Its here?, at this hour? Its Christmas eve..Jeysus!! :o>
FishNose posted Wed, 24 December 2003 at 7:15 PM
You should be in BED!! :o) :] NightFish
steveshanks posted Wed, 24 December 2003 at 7:15 PM
Rendering now LOL....First impressions are it has REAL lights ;o)....Steve
PennyB posted Wed, 24 December 2003 at 7:16 PM
13% downloaded as I speak! I wuv my DSL!
Mazak posted Wed, 24 December 2003 at 7:19 PM
jjsemp posted Wed, 24 December 2003 at 7:19 PM
Mazak posted Wed, 24 December 2003 at 7:20 PM
jjsemp posted Wed, 24 December 2003 at 7:20 PM
Note: the fully textured image moves in real-time thanks to Open-GL. It's smooth. -jjsemp
steveshanks posted Wed, 24 December 2003 at 7:25 PM
Zrincx posted Wed, 24 December 2003 at 7:27 PM
RE:You should be in BED!! :o) :] NightFish Hey Fish, back from skiing???, Youuuu night animal! :o) Z
dialyn posted Wed, 24 December 2003 at 7:28 PM
What am I doing wrong...my graphics are saving as text files. Boo hoo.
dialyn posted Wed, 24 December 2003 at 7:28 PM
By the way, my graphic rendered in under 2 minutes. It just saved as a text file. :/ Good news, bad news for me.
steveshanks posted Wed, 24 December 2003 at 7:31 PM
it doesn't add the .jpg Dialyn...when you save save it as "my render.jpg"....it was the hair slowed mine down i watched and it went a lot faster as it got past the hair....Steve
Veritas777 posted Wed, 24 December 2003 at 7:32 PM
Wooooo-Hooooo!!! Don't Need No P5!!! Also IT IS THE ANSWER to World Peace! Cure's athelete's Foot!!! It will even BRING Elvis and the Beatles BACK AGAIN!!! Worth the WAIT!!!
dialyn posted Wed, 24 December 2003 at 7:32 PM
Well, what do you know about that. It's the simplist things, isn't it. You're such a nice guy, Steve. Thank you!
jjsemp posted Wed, 24 December 2003 at 7:40 PM
dialyn posted Wed, 24 December 2003 at 7:43 PM
I don't know ... I think I'm going to try when I don't have the holidays on my mind. I'm not getting very far with the interface. Sure love to see what other people are doing, though. It will be great when the handy hints start tumbling out. :)
PheonixRising posted Wed, 24 December 2003 at 7:44 PM
Show the joints! Show the bend areas! Show us your armpits!. hehe I am dying to see the joint to weight map conversions.
-Anton, creator of
ApolloMaximus: 32,000+ downloads
since 3-13-07
"Conviction without truth is denial; Denial in the
face of truth is concealment."
jjsemp posted Wed, 24 December 2003 at 7:44 PM
By the way, Veritas777 is correct. The Beatles just rang my doorbell, and they had Elvis with them. They brought with them a declaration of World Peace, gave it to me and then headed for my computer to play with the new software.
PheonixRising posted Wed, 24 December 2003 at 7:45 PM
checking the windows for the dead walking
-Anton, creator of
ApolloMaximus: 32,000+ downloads
since 3-13-07
"Conviction without truth is denial; Denial in the
face of truth is concealment."
Penguinisto posted Wed, 24 December 2003 at 7:46 PM
"It will even BRING Elvis and the Beatles BACK AGAIN!!!" c'mon... the Beatles aren't even in the API. Elvis is another story tho' (evil grin) Seriously though... it's still Alpha, and it's gonna have bugs. The reporting feature is great for that (I don't envy Taylor and His Codemonkey Choir though... they're gonna be real busy :) ) /P
SnowSultan posted Wed, 24 December 2003 at 7:51 PM
Have you guys tried the Spot Renderer yet? Awesome, no more rendering entire scenes to check out how one tiny change will look. :D I think the biggest surprise for me though is seeing my V3 seam guide in the manual. ;) SnowS
my DeviantArt page: http://snowsultan.deviantart.com/
I do not speak as a representative of DAZ, I speak only as a long-time member here. Be nice (and quit lying about DAZ) and I'll be nice too.
timoteo1 posted Wed, 24 December 2003 at 7:52 PM
Now some people will understand the true power of the dark side ... errrh, uhh... I mean OpenGL. ;) Now you'll know what the rest of us were squaking about when the "overhauled" P5 didn't have it and remained solidly in 1990's technology.
-Tim (Downloading now ... can't wait!)
ming posted Wed, 24 December 2003 at 7:53 PM
I got the e-mail but no link. Where is it?
timoteo1 posted Wed, 24 December 2003 at 7:55 PM
In your downloads section of your account page. :)
Penguinisto posted Wed, 24 December 2003 at 7:56 PM
ming: Go to daz3d.com, then to the plat club store. On top of the page is a link to your account. Go there, and if you're a Plat Club member, you should have a copy of DAZ Studio sitting as a download link, all fat and happy waiting for you to click on it :) /P
ming posted Wed, 24 December 2003 at 8:01 PM
I quit the plat club. Waste of $. Thanks for the info.
Chas posted Wed, 24 December 2003 at 8:03 PM
Oh poop. And I'm 400 mi. from my own 'puter. I've had concerns that this would be a memory pig, especially since I already have trouble with any unimesh figure in P4, if I have other apps open or haven't restarted recently (biggest problem is probably a loaded hard drive / no scratch discs). Any projected minimum requirements? (Take care and Merry Xmas)
Veritas777 posted Wed, 24 December 2003 at 8:04 PM
It appears that the DAZ files are descriptive links to the content files! This appears to allow a TOTALLY COOL new content management system allowing HUGE FLEXIBILITY in content management!!! (Huummmm! Wonder why a CONTENT CREATION company would think of THAT!? ----Duh!!!)
Penguinisto posted Wed, 24 December 2003 at 8:09 PM
It runs well enough on a Pentium III 866MHz processor w/ 512MB of PC-133 RAM in it, sporting a GeForce2Go w/ 16MB video RAM. The screen was also a 15" LCD (set at 1600x1400 resolution) XGA monitor (I tested it on my old Dell Inspiron 8100 laptop in case yer curious, and no major slowdowns at all.) Memory usage is pretty dang slim compared to Poser 4, esp. compared to P5, and even Vue... (seriously!) Startup takes about as long as Poser 4, but mostly because it looks through and refreshes content folders (which you can specify either during initial load where it searches automatically, or later on via the menu.) It also runs quite well on a P4m 2.4GHz box w/ 1GB of RAM and a GeForce4 w/ 128MB RAM :) /P
maclean posted Wed, 24 December 2003 at 8:09 PM
'It appears that the DAZ files are descriptive links to the content files' What does that mean exactly? What DAZ files? mac (I can't BELIEVE this has spot rendering!!!!)
soulhuntre posted Wed, 24 December 2003 at 8:18 PM
"Now some people will understand the true power of the dark side ... errrh, uhh... I mean OpenGL." Looks good from what I see... but you do know that OpenGL has nothing to do with the spot rendering right? :)
dialyn posted Wed, 24 December 2003 at 8:22 PM
Penguinisto posted Wed, 24 December 2003 at 8:53 PM
en-tee, eh? /P
lynnJonathan posted Wed, 24 December 2003 at 9:01 PM
Where is it??? Is this stuff under "View My Orders" in the My Account area? I know timoteo1 mentioned its in the download section. But, WHAT download section.
PheonixRising posted Wed, 24 December 2003 at 9:05 PM
If you are a PC memeber it should be at the bottom of "My account"
-Anton, creator of
ApolloMaximus: 32,000+ downloads
since 3-13-07
"Conviction without truth is denial; Denial in the
face of truth is concealment."
PheonixRising posted Wed, 24 December 2003 at 9:10 PM
I like the UI but my first impression is that I would rather have a larger viewport. The camera tools don't need to be that large I think. Kinda like large print reading for the blind. Anyone else figure a way to change the palette sizes and locations?
-Anton, creator of
ApolloMaximus: 32,000+ downloads
since 3-13-07
"Conviction without truth is denial; Denial in the
face of truth is concealment."
maclean posted Wed, 24 December 2003 at 9:17 PM
'Kinda like large print reading for the blind' Well, after the crappy font in poser, anything will be a change for the better. LOL. Umm... I don't suppose you can change the font and size, can you? mac
CDI posted Wed, 24 December 2003 at 9:17 PM
Well...hell.... Is it gonna be available ONLY to PC members?? Sheesh I thought Santa had dropped an early present off. Gonna go play with my lump o coal. :-P
lynnJonathan posted Wed, 24 December 2003 at 9:19 PM
I broker there but never get any free stuff at the bottom of "My Account" area. Nothing that looks like Mazik's pic in the 2nd post. I dont even get the e-mails about this stuff. Maybe I should give them a little more time. I should be doing X-Mas stuff anyways.
maclean posted Wed, 24 December 2003 at 9:28 PM
lynnJonathan, It seems that the brokers will be getting it some time tomorrow. See Robert whisenant's message in the DS forum here or at DAZ. There are quite a few other brokers at the DAZ forum right now - all without a download. So you're not alone. I never have a downloads section in my account either. I'm hoping it will miraculously appear when I log on tomorrow. LOL. mac
SophiaDeer posted Wed, 24 December 2003 at 9:54 PM
OMG!! My husband and I are supposed to go over my sister's home for Chrismtas and I want to play!!
Nancy Deer With Horns
Deer With Horns
Native American Indian Site
SophiaDeer posted Wed, 24 December 2003 at 9:55 PM
That should read Christmas...damn typos!
Nancy Deer With Horns
Deer With Horns
Native American Indian Site
Porthos posted Thu, 25 December 2003 at 2:40 AM
8:40am Christmas morning here in Ireland, and it's not in my account yet! SANTA!!!! You're late!!!!
MS Windows 7 Home Premium 64-bit SP1
Intel Core i7-2600 CPU @ 3.40GHz, 12.0GB RAM, AMD Radeon HD
7770
PoserPro 2012 (SR1) - Units: Metres , Corel PSP X4 and PSE 9
PheonixRising posted Thu, 25 December 2003 at 2:42 AM
You a PC member? SHould be there already
-Anton, creator of
ApolloMaximus: 32,000+ downloads
since 3-13-07
"Conviction without truth is denial; Denial in the
face of truth is concealment."
elgyfu posted Thu, 25 December 2003 at 4:27 AM
No! I have to go to my mums until tomorrow night! And it is only partly downloaded - as I am on a 2 hour time restricted dialup I will need a few goes! And then my dad will winge that he has to always ring me on my mobile coz i am 'on that bloody internet again' - actually I blame you guys for that! Merry Christmas everyone - and happy Studio playing to those of you who have it, and happy other Christmas activities to those of you who don't yet.
Porthos posted Thu, 25 December 2003 at 5:11 AM
O goodieeee it's in my account now, it will take 2.5hours to dl on dialup - waiting patiently........ In the meantime HAPPY CHRISTMAS EVERYONE!!! :D
MS Windows 7 Home Premium 64-bit SP1
Intel Core i7-2600 CPU @ 3.40GHz, 12.0GB RAM, AMD Radeon HD
7770
PoserPro 2012 (SR1) - Units: Metres , Corel PSP X4 and PSE 9
timoteo1 posted Thu, 25 December 2003 at 6:12 AM
"Looks good from what I see... but you do know that OpenGL has nothing to do with the spot rendering right? :) " Yaaa ... I never said it did have anything to do with it. Getting me confused with someone else maybe? :) -Tim
SAMS3D posted Thu, 25 December 2003 at 8:13 AM
Oh man, I have to open gifts, I want to play...will wait till all leave...then I am off. Sharen
Dave posted Thu, 25 December 2003 at 9:13 AM
Another broker here, patiently waiting.... yeah right! Dave
ming posted Thu, 25 December 2003 at 9:29 AM
It's too bad you have to be a "paying member" to help test it.
Dave posted Thu, 25 December 2003 at 9:39 AM
Wha!?! A "paying member"? Where did you read that? Dave
ming posted Thu, 25 December 2003 at 10:40 AM
You've got to be a Plantinum Club member.
xantor posted Thu, 25 December 2003 at 10:45 AM
yeah that sucks
Penguinisto posted Thu, 25 December 2003 at 10:47 AM
ming is right... but then again, D|S is still in the teething stages, and everybody learned from the 'who cares if it don't work - let's ship it anyway!' debacle that was Poser 5. They had to pick a small enough group to keep up with the public testing, so the Plat Club got picked. Trust me... there are days when I wish I could just wait for the finished item and not deal with the debugs :) /P
Dave posted Thu, 25 December 2003 at 11:03 AM
But brokers are part of the PC. Arent they included to get D|S? Dave
ming posted Thu, 25 December 2003 at 11:14 AM
If this is a free item, could somebody just post it somewhere for others to try?
Penguinisto posted Thu, 25 December 2003 at 11:20 AM
Dave - yes. The folks at DAZ' forums are aware of it and have been sending along word to the higher-ups about it. As soon as DAZ gets back to work, they'll set it up for the brokers. (If it's any consolation, the mods at DAZ Forum didn't get theirs either (evil grin).) /P
Ghostofmacbeth posted Thu, 25 December 2003 at 11:23 AM
The brokers will be getting it soon ... Just a weird way they have to pforce the PC in place or something. As Peng said that rbtwhiz said they will get it today or tomorrow at the latest
Ghostofmacbeth posted Thu, 25 December 2003 at 11:24 AM
ming .. Nope. It will be free for beta release soemtime later for all the public
Penguinisto posted Thu, 25 December 2003 at 11:40 AM
Cathrine - sorry you feel sad and disappointed on Christmas morning... Me, I intend on getting out of the house come noon today and not even thinking about computers, let alone 3d proggies. Next year at this time, I'll have a slobbering 11-month-old baby crawling around the house (and prolly trying to eat the tree ornaments), so I'm rather enjoying this quiet morning while the missus sleeps in :) There is good news about D|S, though; it will come out for free once the bugs have been squashed. It isn't a trick at all, nor was it intended to be any such thing; it's more of a way to get a big enough control group of testers without flooding the code monkeys with requests. This is common with many programs, right up to Microsoft (who performs their alpha testing via a select group of MSDN affiliates.) As for Kazaa, anyone inclined to use such a thing for programs can takes their chances (viruses, trojans, etc), but it would prolly be a lot safer, and still free, if they just waited until the stable version of D|S comes out. The brokers will get hold of it tomorrow at most (as Ghost mentioned), but they get to hammer on bugs and crashes, too. /P
Penguinisto posted Thu, 25 December 2003 at 12:16 PM
It's still Christmas morning in this time zone, but I just got word that they've working on it right now. Shouldn't be too long before you get an email... Matt is in up to his armpits holding the fort down right now. /P
ming posted Thu, 25 December 2003 at 12:18 PM
I don't see where a control group would have anything to do with it. The more people testing, the better. I think it's just a money thing.
Penguinisto posted Thu, 25 December 2003 at 12:36 PM
" I don't see where a control group would have anything to do with it. The more people testing, the better." Err, not if you're the programming team. They've only got so many code-monkeys, so it's easier to keep the bug reports down to Niagra Falls size, as opposed to the Biblical Flood proportions they'd face if everyone went at it. The only "money thing" is that DAZ can't afford the number of programmers required for a general public alpha... even Microsoft can barely afford something like that. The results will still cost nothing even after it gets out to the general public. I'm sorry it'll take some time, but the good news is, once you do get hold of it, it'll work far better (and have more features) than what the PC folks are wrestling with now. /P
Mec4D posted Thu, 25 December 2003 at 1:19 PM
yea yea we got already the url to download D|S you can find it in the Members Only forum at Daz3D the topic url is: http://forum.daz3d.com/viewtopic.php?p=16530 This is for Pc club members, merchants, and Forum team members who might not have gotten the download yet . Cath
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XENOPHONZ posted Thu, 25 December 2003 at 2:59 PM
I am away from my personal PC's until next week!!!!!!! AARRRRGGGHHHHH!!!!!!
ming posted Thu, 25 December 2003 at 3:35 PM
So, since you can't afford enough programers, you don't want to hear about all the problems...just some of them. It's not that I don't believe you. I just think it's the wrong way to do things.
xantor posted Thu, 25 December 2003 at 3:36 PM
I didn`t know microsoft even tested their products ha ha
Mec4D posted Thu, 25 December 2003 at 3:36 PM
Ah very bad, it show up also under all accounts btw.. they fixed it today! I tested some renders and I most say that the rendering is very quick, I rendered the first scene that was included with D|S in only 1 min and 1.20 sec with shadows and Depth of Field in standard not open GL rendering. No crash on XP here Cath
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ming posted Thu, 25 December 2003 at 3:37 PM
They test them...they just don't fix them! LOL
BabaLouie posted Thu, 25 December 2003 at 3:50 PM
Ming, With all due respect you have little room to complain, you feel like the Plat club was a waste of money and DAZ stated early on that they would be early releasing DS to Plat club members. Personally, I have found the Plat Club to be a good deal, as have many others. It is very simple as to why Plat Club members are gettig the initial release, it is a benefit to being a member and asking someone to post it somewhere for others to try is unethical. BabaLouie
xantor posted Thu, 25 December 2003 at 4:07 PM
If they don`t put it out for "ordinary" people soon it will be on kazaa winmx and all the rest.
Penguinisto posted Thu, 25 December 2003 at 8:36 PM
Ming Sez: " So, since you can't afford enough programers, you don't want to hear about all the problems...just some of them. " Not exactly. Dunno how much experience you have with program development, but every major commercial program out there that isn't Open Source does it the same way... release it to a small cadre of pre-alpha experienced testers to bang out the huge and obvious bugs (trust me, you really don't want to know how many times I've had to sit through a re-install of Windows XP just to re-create a clean environment during pre-alpha testing.) Then, it goes to a wider array of folks to get a larger sample of machinery to test it out on (which cures a wider variety of not-so-nasty bugs.) Finally, it goes out to the general public, where the smallest bugs can be finessed out. Now compare that with Poser 5*, where they were pressured by EGI-Sys to push a short beta-testing program, then out to the public at large. Take a cruise through the Poser 5-related complaint threads... and that was their "finished product." (this isn't a bag on CL since they were pressured to do it, but it goes to show what would happen if you had gotten what you wanted - a push to the public of a raw and unfinished proggie.) * again, this is not a bag on Curious Labs - read the whole paragraph plz :) Xantor sez: " I didnt know microsoft even tested their products ha ha*" You'd be surprised. I prefer Linux to anything made by Microsoft, but I can tell you that even MS takes quite a bit of time and effort to test their stuff before releasing it. Microsoft's problem isn't in testing and release of apps, it's in the basic structural flaws of the OS itself, IMHO. " *If they don
t put it out for "ordinary" people soon it will be on kazaa winmx and all the rest." Sure... and folks who do such a stupid thing like download it from there take their chances with trojans, backdoors, and a zillion other ways for some 13-yr. old script kiddie to own their computers. Oh, and typical virus-catchers and firewalls aren't going to catch a lot of the backdoors and trojans that the person intentionally installs. Besides, a typical download off of kazaa, winmx, e-donkey/e-mule, etc takes about 10x as long as just straight-up downloading from the DAZ server. Even BitTorrent would take much longer, assuming someone actually bothered to seed an unstable alpha proggie in the first place... To those out there humming up Kazaa now? They're certainly welcome to try, of course (the proggie costs nothing anyway), but they won't get any sympathy from DAZ when their boxes becomes someone else's property, or it chokes to death and takes all the data with it (shrug.) /P
xantor posted Thu, 25 December 2003 at 8:44 PM
By the way I wasnt saying that it was a good thing that
studio will be on kazaa etc. I was just pointing out what will probably happen although It wont actually do daz any real harm but Im sure they don
t want it being distributed by anyone apart from themselves.
maclean posted Thu, 25 December 2003 at 9:21 PM
'It wont actually do daz any real harm' True, but not really the point. The point is that you do NOT want to encourage these leeches at kazaa, etc, in any way whatsoever. I agree with babalouie. We all knew DS would be given to PC members. If someone feels the PC is a waste of money, then they just have to wait a bit longer, is all. It's not like it's gonna cost you anything anyway. Well said, peng. mac
xantor posted Thu, 25 December 2003 at 9:46 PM
I wasnt encouraging them. I don
t mind waiting for daz studio. As long as they don`t say A halloween treat for non pc members the studio is here to download now :)
SAMS3D posted Fri, 26 December 2003 at 4:43 AM
Crashed it 3 times trying to load Shazam....but I can load the freak. Sharen