hello all I'm back (not that anyone missed me or something, but),and after losing my mind over my old computer crashing ,not reconizing programs,and just failing to work at all , I decided to bite the bullet and build my own computer, the only thing I salvaged from the old one was the CPU, sound card , floppy drive,and memory and it works like a dream( instead of a nightmare like the old one). So I'll definatly will be trying my hand with the open challeges, and any others as well,so let the games begin! --criticom--