Hi Guy's, Well Mr postman finally brought my copy of Carrera 3, and after seeing the thickness of the manual :oO i've been playing, and i must say, "I am impressed", in fact more than that i am Gobsmacked! the render quality is amazing and i cant get over the render speed! i guess i've only scratched the surface of this programme but i am realy looking forward to learning more and becoming a part of this forum, (Hopefully a useful part, not a spare one)! :0) For those who are interested my first real render is up in the galleries now, entitled "Time to go", Thanks for listening, Regards, BigT ;0)