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Everyone, I have been asked to resign as a moderator at Renderosity for reasons I may not discuss. It has been very educational being the moderator here for the last few years, and I hope my replacements treat everyone well. If anyone needs to contact me or ask any poser related questions I can be found as a moderator of the Poser forum at Rendervisions.com, through my gallery at Graphics.com or my website As Always Lyrra the Ex-Evil Overlord

Thank you for the time and that you put in. Your efforts will be missed :)

You've contributed a lot to this community, and I thank you for being a moderator and a educator at Renderosity. I can't say I hate to see you go, but I will see you at Rendervisions, where the atmosphere is a bit friendlier to us "weird folks" :o) JV

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Sorry to "see" you go Lyrra ... The best to you @ your new locale. cheers, dr geep ;=]

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The pay probably sucked anyway - lotza luv. Perhaps a moderators' union could be formed - he he he Good luck in your next endeavors

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You will be missed from here- good thing we have you at rendervisions :)

Sorry to see you go. I'll check out rendervisions now that you're there. Love esther

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Ack! Lyrra, I know we've not always seen eye to eye, but I know you're a good person. I hope you don't stop visiting Renderosity!!!

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"I have been asked to resign..." Seems very odd; I thought you did a great job. Thanks for the fine service and best of luck to you.

Sheesh. Rosity just can't stop shooting themselves in the foot, can they? They've lost a gem in you, Lyrra. And it's definitely their loss.

The last few times anything like this happened was due to conflict of interest, or acting as a moderator on another site. Regardless of what the circumstances, you will be missed. Good luck!

Good luck to you, Lyrra. I, too, thought you were a most excellent moderator. Will be seeing you at Rendervisions!!!

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Too bad. You really were a great moderator. Good luck, and I guess now I have to go find out what Rendervisions is. See you there. -Alfonso

She's ours now!! cackles evilly, throws Lyrra over her shoulder and makes for the hills towards Rendervisions

Really tho - a damned shame overall. I always felt Lyrra had quite the level head and even hand when dealing with this rabidly enthusiastic roiling forum. A very difficult thing to do what with the constantly shifting, open-to-interpretation TOS and mass amounts of strong personalities in the Poser community. ;) I don't know what goes on or went on behind the scenes, but I think RO has lost a valuable asset.

I don't understand either. I always thought you were very fair and impartial, and excellent at your job.

well i don't look/read each and every post here and there, but i cannot recall of any major failure/mistake of Lyrra as a moderator... (now for rosity itself which had made some bad moves recently here and there, it is another matter...) i hope lyrra is not a scapegoat... BTW>, Lyrra, i hope we still can hear from you here as a member and contributor anyway; i specially liked your huge work on mayadude (and am making a few picturezs here with him for my personnal use.. not placed in the gallery i guess) see you we lost caleb, we lost lyrra... what is left ? who is next ?

I think the PTB are being very asinine in their replacing their good mods with people that can't hack it. From what I've seen lately, the new guys are being too nice and are getting pushed around. And on some of them, if they don't like what they are hearing (no matter how bad) they just lock things up (Ie, the magazine thread). Oh well, things are going to hell in a handbasket, and they don't seem to care (until they realize it hurts their profits). BTW, for the admins that are clueless and have been arguing with me on the state of things, why is one of the most popular terms being used by different circles for R'osity "Rectumosity"?

Thanks for your help :)

Geez Lyrra, I thought you were one of the best. See you at Rendervisions :)

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Lyrra, I don't say this to please you but I watched your work closely and I can say that Renderosity made a biiiig mistake to let you go. Good luck with your new home and I'll see you over at Rendervisions... (His voice quivers and looks away to hide a treacherous tear running down his handsome cheek...)

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It's sad to see the ones with actual value being asked to leave.. Rosity sure is a weird place these days.. cold.. and not at all community-like..

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Bummer - Qulastima! Skimming thru your recent posts here, your behavior is exemplary. I hope it wasn't involving that texture copyright controversy. Probably couldn't have been, since this step would have no ameliorating effect on the outcome (if any). It's a learning curve with sites like these. You gotta mind your Ps and Qs, make sure everything you say is politically correct, unactionable. It's hard to be calm and dispassionate sometimes, goes against human nature. Well, happy new year anyway - feliz a nuevo!

Awwwww... dang! Really sorry to see you go, lyrra! You were a great mod. All the very best for your future endeavours. mac

Hmm, sorry to see you leaving these shores, Lyrra. Best of luck with everything in the future :)

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Very sorry to see you and your"Pointy Stick",leave... Wish the best for you in this new year.. (sad)SWAMP

Erm....well damn...I was just getting to know ya Lyrra! Thanks for the help with the texturing post. Hopefully you'll still be around here as a member..would hate to lose a nice person just when we've said hello! My best wishes to you and your loved ones and I wish you all the luck in the world wherever you go...keep in touch.. zai the confused...as always..

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Remember, she's not leaving forever. All fans of Lyrra the Great can now see her at rendervisions.com, where she was made mod of the Poser forum pretty much as soon as they fired her from here.

Why do all the good ones have to go :(..DAMN.......Quite frankly I'm stunned. Have a HAPPY NEW YEAR Lyrra!!! Good luck with your new mod position. :)

That sucks! Probably some dumb ass R'osity politics. I'm very sorry to see you go Lyrra.

Well you are in good company (Ironbear etc. and all those mods and admins of high caliber that have resigned or been pushed!). Wear it as an honor. If I were in the hiring business and looking for intergrity and ability, ex-Renderosity mods would be at the top of the list.0) with nobs on!!!! Why do I keep thinking of Stalin's political purges of the early decades of the 20th century when I see posts like this??? These thoughts are becoming too frequent for comfort, I really must ask a shrink about this strange mental association. Am I hallucinating, or is it just an awakening???? BIG 00::)) BTW Happy New Year. Regards STORM

Best wishes, Lyrra - you had a very hard job to do here, and you did it well. You faced some very tough choices and tried very hard to be fair, but decisive. I admired that. Your moderation will be missed here.

AWWW, Lyrra, "asked to resign"???? What happened, you weren't as high-handed as the others? Damn, you are one of the good people here and you will be missed! Take care, lady, and don't be a stranger!

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HEY LYRRA, don't worry about THESE ADMINS,, we all know how damn good you are, you know YOU are ALWAYS invited into my Company where ever you are, and you don't have to answer to and bunch of "I DON"T KNOWS".. go for it girl, the world is yours, the have release their chains, and you go run and make the money they couldn't before:) by the way hon.. heres my web site again,, www.mgbrooksworks.com brand new look, and when i start up ( if i do, the brokering biz, it won't be no 50/50 shit. how about 95/5? i mean after all its the brokers who do ALL the work. so they deserve the 95%. No Mods, No admin, and mainly NO TOS,. i do quite well as you well know. see ya soon.:)

Sorry to see you go Lyrra was just getting to know you good luck in your future adventures :O)

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Sorry to hear that Lyrra - I personally think you did an admirable job of moderating a very difficult forum.

K people... keep this to farewells, NO more Renderosity Site, Admin, or PTB bashing. I'd hate to start My New Year off handing out warnings. Thomas Poser Coordinator

Hey....go easy Lyrra :) Your humor will be missed (yes...I actually saw the humor in your efforts to "tame the wilde beaste"!!) Seems like there is always some goofy damned thing here. And as for the person/people who asked you to resign, all I can say is..........Fuck 'em! :)

warnings? or censorship? loss of freedom of expression, and Freedom of choice and speech as well? so this means Big Brother is watching YOU. ya;ll be careful what you say and how you say it, you don't want to hurt the people who run this place feelings or else you could be Ban from here as well.

Sorry to see you go Lyrra, you were the best evil overload we've had. ;) Bye!

Hi Thomas
Congrats on your elevation/appointment to the "Co-Ordinator team".
I genuinely wish you the best of luck with it.

It is sad that in one of your first acts as a "Team Member" you should have to interpose in the controversy surrounding the removal of one of your colleagues and issue a warning about attacks on the PTB. Even sadder that this should come in the early hours of 2004.
However, I see no real substance to "NO more Renderosity Site, Admin, or PTB bashing."
"Fair Comment, "democratically held ideas" and "differing opinions" have always been respected, held in high esteem and encouraged on this "Artists Site" and have long been accepted by the PTB as part of the normal flow of argument and diversity of Renderosity. Perhaps these long-revered standards about normal forum discussion have recently changed?
Personally I don't see any "Bashing" going on yet, some ribald and colorful comment perhaps, but nothing against the TOS. But maybe others see this differently?

Best regards
STORM

I'm sorry to see you go too, Lyrra. Thanks for your contributions here; and I hope you have fun at Rendervisions. :) Beth

I agree with you, Storm, I didn't read much in the way of bashing or going against the TOS. Kind of ticked me off to be told what one can or cannot say. Seems that "normal" may only be what we are "allowed" to say. I think my time here is nearly done.

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Moderating, like editing, is a highly situational field. I feel you did your best but, as a former journalist and as one who teaches journalism and writing, I realize that "job safety" is an oximoron. May you fare well, where ever you may fare.

Lyrra has been a asset to the modship of this site for many years, She will be missed here.

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& I quote from Post #21....... I think the PTB are being very asinine in their replacing their good mods with people that can't hack it. From what I've seen lately, the new guys are being too nice and are getting pushed around. And on some of them, if they don't like what they are hearing (no matter how bad) they just lock things up (Ie, the magazine thread). Oh well, things are going to hell in a handbasket, and they don't seem to care (until they realize it hurts their profits). BTW, for the admins that are clueless and have been arguing with me on the state of things, why is one of the most popular terms being used by different circles for R'osity "Rectumosity"? Seems kinda like bashing to Me..... Thomas Still a Poser Coordinator & Still willing to toss out warnings

how many warnings do you get before you lose the respect of the whole community?

As another former Staff Journalist (Irish Press Group and subsequently The Sunday Times (UK/Dublin Office) for many years) I read that as fair comment, maybe not what the PTB want to hear, but nevertheless, fair comment.
But perhaps we have different Editorial Standards!
But we can agree to differ.;0)

Regards and Happy New Year.
Signing off:

STORM

"But perhaps we have different Editorial Standards! But we can agree to differ.;0)" That is one too many "buts" Should read "Perhaps we have different Editorial Standards! But we can agree to differ.;0)"

"So it came to pass that as he trudged from the place of blood and wrath his soul changed. He came from hot plowshares to prospects of clover tranquilly, and it was as if hot plowshares were not. Scars faded as flowers." - Stephen Crane Lyrra, ex-evil Overlord, It has been a distinct pleasure talking to you on occasion and seeing some of your work. I hope is all well and I wish you a happy new year! Jai Guru Lyrra OM!, - TJ (bikermouse:"The fragrance always remains in the hand that gives the rose." Heda Bejar)

Being 'asked to resign' is a different way of saying 'quit or get fired' it adds up to exactly the same thing, 'your presence is no longer wanted and your absence is greatly desired'

Why shouldn't speech be free? Very little of it is worth anything.

Guess I'll be looking into Rendervisions a bit more often now...sorry to see you go, Lyrra

What Storm said. A lot worse than Hellmark's message have been posted here in the past. I didn't realize being critical of this site was now against the TOS. That is definitely something new. Sheesh.

Lyrra, I'm really going to miss you. Whether we've agreed or disagreed, you've always been fair... and that's saying a lot with all these competing interests. Evil overlords usually go on to conquer other planets (needing a whole new wardrobe and uniforms for their minions), but there is always the prospect of another world out there. {hug} Carolly

I'm sorry to see you go too, you have always seemed fair and patient when it came to dealing with the madness here. :) I really don't have the time to check multiple forums, so I hope you'll pop in here once in a while to share your creations and let us know how you're doing. Take care. SnowS

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Best wishes for you at Rendervisions. I liked your tongue-in-cheek objectivity. Chuck ("The Saddened")

Good bye and farewell, throw off your chains and fly free. What the hey is a PTB?? And can I get it without pickles?

well I know what a PTA is. (parents teachers association) farewells are always tough. Best of luck to you Lyrra.

Aww man. :( Thanks for all your help over the years, you Evil Overlord, you. ;) Good luck with the new gig. bB

PTB is normaly known as "Powers That Be" are the bosses, them that make the rules', 'bigwigs', 'brass hats', or any other terms you want to use for the ones in charge of things

Why shouldn't speech be free? Very little of it is worth anything.

Lyrra, sorry to see you go, good luck at rendervisions, and all else that you set out to do. hugs Sallie

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Good luck, Lyrra. Thanks for all your hard work keeping us all in check - you should get the Nobel Peace Prize for all the fights you have broken up! Hugs, Elgyfu

Best Wishes! Hope you have a Happy New Year regardless. Not exactly a shock all things considered. ;)

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lol... we all know what "PTB" is. I was making a funny ;) Not that it matters to me what the 'PTB' say or do at all... as it doesnt. I don't work for nor answer to anyone here, and anyone's "authority" on any site only goes as far as their website and no further. So while I'm here I respect the rules, but I'll say and do as I please other places, within their rules, if any. How I'm treated here affects my behavior outside the 'PTB authority' to pro and con. Behooves them to be nice to me, actually. Got enough real 'PTB' in real life, I'm not going to fret over any in cyberspace that have no real control over what I do anyway.

"Still willing to toss out warnings " Well, goddie goddie gumdrops. Thats what we need, another Admin with a hair trigger.

Many thanks, Lyrra for all your time and contributions to the community. I too, am sorry to see you go, but best wishes to you and have a happy and properous New Year.

1st off... I NEVER said Hellmark's comment WAS a TOS violation, I just asked that ppl keep this thread on its SUBJECT, & that being Lyrra's Farewell.... NOT why or how come, or whatever.... I simply ask that threads in THIS Forum, stay on track, NOT wander off to other topics. Thanks, Thomas Poser Coordinator

Well if you had said "guys could we please keep this on topic" That would be one thing. You stated that you were getting ready to hand out warnings, implying that if members didnt say what YOU wanted, they would be warned. Quite a different thing isnt it?

Lyrra, come join the "silenced employee" party I am throwing for New Year's Eve. hehe. Best of Luck

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alrighty guys, I don't want to start life as a 'civilian' by getting my thread locked. So all y'all keep the bitching to a minimum alright? Rosity will sink or swim without me. I don't think there's anything I can do by my lonesome to change the tides at this point. Smith Sorry for the ruckus .. its always tough when the old sherrif leaves town ya know? Lyrra the Relocated

I am not trying to tell anyone what to say, simply to stay on topic and no bashing. Bashing = warnings. Happy New Years All Lyrra > Have fun on the other side, & I'll kinda miss you Myself. Thomas Poser Coordinator

What's this? What's this...? This is an outrage....! this is obviously discrimination against Evil Overlords! Scarab<-third generation evil overlord....

Welll, just plain "poop"! Lyrra, you were usually right on target and had a great sense of humor about it all. I shall miss you and I think there has been a mistake made by the admins...I bet they are already sorry about it. I will look for you at Rendervisions. Have a wonderful 2004! Diane

Lyrra was a "she"?? I had no idea, and actually I had no idea about the existence of rendervisions (after finding renderosity and renderotica, I think i was done with 'render' stuff)... I join the cry out for Lyrra's departure... I think her work was fair and exemplary... I'll follow her to rendervisions, and I'll taje the opportunity to take a look at how things are over there... see ya there!

Lyrra, I've always thought you were fair and reasonable, and quite pleasant to deal with. I'm sorry to see you go. I think Renderosity is making (yet another) mistake in this. :( Ah, well. This is yet another reason for me to frequent Rendervisions more than I have in the past. bonni

"When a man gives his opinion, he's a man. When a woman gives her opinion, she's a bitch." - Bette Davis

Well, yes, but when Lyra defines herself as an "Evil Overlord", she's not just being "cute"...We Evil Overlords are twelve feet tall, have opposable pincers, multlsegmented tails and (since 9/11) have been banned from holding any office higher than walkway gravel by the Homeland Securiy Act.... ...Fortunately, we like being gravel.... Scarab

PS:...watch where you walk in the future... S.

Good luck to you at Rendervisions, Lyrra. You did such wonderful work spotlighting artwork that might have been missed among the multitude of images in the galleries. Thanks, Cris

Smitty, you know me, and you should know thats not bashing. When I bash, there is blood and body parts, not merely stepping on the toes of people (Hey, I wear size 15s, I step on alot of toes). Also, I personally feel that reasons for her being fired are on topic, since this is about her not being a mod anymore, and thats why I said what I did. That is all, Spike, I find your post rather ironic. Not that you didn't like her or anything like that, just a r'osity high power responsible for this saying she was good and will be missed. That is all.

Well Hell, I think your comments were off topic ( & slightly to the bashing side ). IMHO, why, what, & how Lyrra not being here is irrelevent to her farewell post. On that note... lets stick to farewells & things, nothing else, please. Thomas Poser Coordinator

Jus wanted to say that I'm sorry to see you go Lyrra, and I'm off to do battle with registration at Rendervisions to see if I can finally get in there again (it thinks I'm already a member, but I have no idea under what email addie!). Wonder if this'll push Rendervisions higher in the R'osity webring? (cough, cough). See you there!

At least you can see Rendervisions, Darkginger. All I get is a banner ad and a blank blue screen. sigh Kate (who refuses to use IE just to look at a website)

Kate, I use Mozilla Firebird, and I see it with no problems. I've also ran it through Mozilla Seamonkey, and I believe Opera has no problems with it. About the only problems I've found is with the default Mac browser Get a hold of me and I'll try to help ya out, since I am the resident anti MS person there.

Kate, I visit Rendervisions all the time, and I use Netscape. Mind you, it's an up-to-date version of Netscape, but the site does work fine. I went to the site with Netscape 4.x (I think it's 4.7; I only keep it on my hard drive for testing purposes) and I see what you mean about the blank page. I didn't go through the code with a fine tooth comb, but there's a bug in NS4.x that prevents a page from displaying if there's an unclosed table tag somewhere. Perhaps that's the problem... I'll drop a note to Lady Cherry and she can look it over and see. Still, and I really do NOT want to be rude here, but when you use a browser from 1998 or so, you do kind of have to figure that a lot of stuff just won't work in it. That's no excuse for bad coding, but stuff like CSS, some forms of JavaScript, iFrames, etc. just plain won't work, because they hadn't been developed yet. That's just the way of technology. bonni

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without travelling, you can`t reach new shores! Best of luck for 2004 and a happy new year! uwe

Well that explains why they felt the need to employ 6 more people to look after the forum, you really will be a hard act to follow Lyrra (the not so stressed anymore). Good luck & God Bless :)

Our loss is their gain: good luck, and I hope the stress levels are lower (though when I get there ....)

why don't we all pack up and leave this place, and go to Rendervisions? i mean after all we all know one another, the only differents is this, Renedervisions isn't run by little stormtroopers.

Sorry to see you go, Lyrra. Take care, and the very best of everything to you.

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I worked for somebody who fired someone because when he yelled "Shut up!" at her in front of a customer, she said he couldn't talk to her like that. (She had earned her own personal, public "Shut up" by objecting to his telling the customer another employee was "a {futting} genius who doesn't know {ship}."--my censoring, BTW) He explained to her that he was the owner of the store and could do whatever he liked. And fired her. (Then a few hours later he permitted her to apologize and hired her back, because he is a saint, after all.) He was right, of course. We all can do whatever we like. R'osity can replace good mods with people of consequence who announce their presence with tasteful signatures like "Still a mod, and ready to kick butt." They can tell us--merely guests, after all--what to say, what to see, and what to buy, and ban us for undisclosed offenses. And the consequence of doing whatever you like, is that others will do whatever they like. What I like, is to drift over to Rendervisions. My visits to R'osity are shorter and shorter, and less and less frequent. And I never, ever, buy in the RMP any more. Oh, the customer never came back. M PS: This post became "on topic" when Thomas stepped in.

One more forum to read regularly...so that adds to the list of Mec4d, RDNA, PoserPros, 3Dcommune, Renderosity, cgtalk, Deathfall, ... /me needs a life! Lyrra - all the best. Happy new year.

sigh - Im sure that a consultant somewhere told someone it was the best thing to do... consultants - when there's no solution in sight, there's always money to be made prolonging the problems.

lol mick, sounds like one of my mothers former employers, who fired her in a rage one day when she refused to do as he wanted. (because what he wanted was illegal) After he fired her, he tried to lie to the unemployment office declaring she quit... so she turned him in for tax evasion to the IRS, and made a cool 1000+ dollars on the deal after the IRS took him to court and won. (you get ten percent of whatever the IRS collects, if you turn someone in for tax evasion.) Moral? there's always a bigger fish than you are, out there somewhere.

Renedervisions isn't run by little stormtroopers. Nah... too busy running the Rendervisions Taverne and keeping the Dancing Purple Hippo in line. ;) Lyrra - sorry to see you leave here... happy to know you'll be spending more time with us at Rendervisions. :) Brynna, Rendervisions Bartender

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Good bye, Lyrra, and thanks for your time here. Rendervisions ? Don't know that one. I certainly have noticed more and more familiar names posting at Renderotica in the last couple of months though.......

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Renderotica is the happy haven for all us misbegotten perverts. grins I like how they redid the site recently, a whole heck of a lot. I think that's why they are getting more members becoming active in the forums now.

Asked to leave for reasons you may not discuss? I DETEST censorship. I keep seeing things like this in the forums recently. Sorry to see you go Lyrra. Methinks this is about the last time I'm willing to read something like that. Got room for one more at Rendervisions? (I'm already one of the pervs posting on Renderotica.)

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Well, smitthms, let me take the opportunity to give my viewpoint on a few things. (1) Humans, being what they are, get emotional. If graphed, it is a spike that surges high and slowly returns to a flat line. (my way of saying the emotion of Lyrra being dismissed will die away...even she knows that) (2) To have allowed the thread to get posted and not locked in the beginning was "implied" consent to allow people to post more than a "sorry to see you go, good luck" message. Anyone with a brain could have foreseen a bit of straying from the sacred "subject line". IMO (not humble, mind you), all you have done is portrayed yourself as a person who is a bit more "trigger-happy" than a coordinator should be and alienated a lot of people in R'City's biggest forum. How are those "oats" feeling now? (3) R'City seems to be undergoing a lot of changes. Without much business sense (I must confess), I wonder if the recent moves indicate a desire on behalf of R'City to become more of a business and less of a community. More interested in profits than people. Of course, this is fine. People come and people go and there are always new people to join who won't know of these sorts of things. Kinda reminds me of the "mom and pop" store that became a chain and no longer knew the names of the customers...they were "faceless beings with money to spend". Personally, I like the "thanks for buying my product", "small-town", "I appreciate your business" approach that some sites and vendors project. (4) I know this is a tough forum to mod. I'd never do it. I don't have the patience, I think. Or the time. Or the knowledge. I also think losing Lyrra was losing a person with those abilities. Yes, she is spirited and opinionated. But, as I posted above, from what I saw in her (and the person I met at Dragon*Con), she dished out her "warnings" to people with a lot less of a "lead shoe" than you appear to be doing. But you remind me of a person ready to graduate from the police acadamy who can't wait to don their badge and "Rodney King" the first person daring to tiptoe over the "line". My advice would be to give these free-thinking, opinionated artists who sell and buy here a bit of leeway in their "rants". So long as they don't call people names or otherwise tresspass on the TOS. My "rant" falls into that category. I've only expressed an opinion. I've tried to be informative about it as I gave my opinion. Admittedly, I've tried to insert a bit of sarcasm. Like others, I suspect, I will mellow out. But, I can tell you now that I won't forget the demeanor you have displayed nor will I forget the way Lyrra handled controversial threads. I, of course, can be convinced to leave this community (errrr, business) by receiving a warning for this post. After all, most of the products I want to buy can now be obtained at a lesser price at other places, assistance is readily available at other places, and, if R'City's "trend" continues, I expect I can ultimately obtain ALL I need from another site. After all, I find, by my spreadsheet on spending, my purchases have been increasing on PoserPros and RDNA (good work, Mehndi and Syyd!). And, suredly, no one will miss my gallery (LOL).

Whenever one sees the phrase "reasons I may not discuss" the tendency is usually to assume something rather worse than the hidden reality. Which is a good reason for not using that phrase or requiring others to do so. Anyway, all the best.

Figures. Lyrra, you're going to be missed. I've always thought you handled this forum very well. "R'City seems to be undergoing a lot of changes. Without much business sense (I must confess), I wonder if the recent moves indicate a desire on behalf of R'City to become more of a business and less of a community." Gee, I hope they're smarter than that. I certainly wouldn't come here just for the store. I don't like the policies, and I can get most of what I want cheaper from venues I trust more.

Did you actually have a gallery Chuck? hehehe j/k Chuck I hardly ever go into the galleries any more, I'm too busy for that these days :)

C1rcle...well, it's called a gallery but many of the good artists wouldn't refer to it with that word...LOL. NP with the kidding, though...I'm smiling as well.

Lyrra, I have a great respect for you. The Poser Forum can cause burn out pretty quickly in any but the most hardy souls. That you could do this for several years is a tribute to you. The "why" you are leaving is less important than the fact that a good friend of the community has donated extraordinary amounts of time and effort to make this a better place. Thank you, Lyrra, for all your efforts, and my sincere hopes for all good things to come to you in 2004. Happy New Year!

Lyrra
I know that you just started your new texture venture and how much time it takes to start a new business - sometimes more than 24 hours in a day :]

When one door closes a new one opens - new adventures are exciting and this new path will give you more time to devote to your business, which is something I know you have been wanting to do for a long time :)

Best of luck with your new venture and please keep the Poser Community informed of your new creations!

Dee-Marie

Whatever the reasons -- Farewell. And best wishes.

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It's inevitable. Human nature will always wonder: "Why?" Attempts to stop the curiosity are like shouting at the wind. Goodbye, Lyrra.

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(Attempts to stop the curiosity are like shouting at the wind.) Most of the legitimate usenet groups have a term for those that try. Good Luck, Lyrra. Thomas, censor is the ugliest word in the English language.

this would make a very good artical in any newpaper, where the truth can be told, where there is Freedom of the press, and let The People Know. How some sites set there own rules called TOS, and then turn it around they way they see fit, and then hire someone to help them and then they kick out one of the best. How they want to censor everything, like nothing is going wrong, yet we all know how screwed up Ros and other sites are with this thing called TOS. all you have to do is read all the posts, even most of the readers know that "something is wrong". a freindly site? it use to be, fair? it was at one time, but to be used and sometimes abused well that isn't really fair.

Dialyn, you make it seem as if she's quitting because she's tired, and not being fired. Heh

Thomas! What have you done hon :o(.... Laurie

I'm not making it anything one way or the other. I'm not speculating. I'm not gossiping. Life is so short, and time so limited, that the whole mumble grumble bit is a waste of energy that I don't have. I can only say what I know. What I know: Lyrra has made a huge contribution to the community, she has volunteered for a tough duty for a long time, and we should show respect and consideration for her and what she has given. I can wish her well without bias, and without tearing anyone else down in the process. I'll visit Rendervisions and Lyrra's site, because she is a very talented person and I'd like to see the direction she takes, and I hope that whatever she puts her energy into is successful for her. That's all I wish for anyone that is trying to do something beneficial with their lives. That's all. No more from me. Good bye to this thread. Happy new year.

Very good analysis, Chuck. Allowing people to vent, even "bash," a little, would be a lot less disruptive over the long run than preemptive threats that only rile people up more. These things generally blow themselves out. IMO, Rosity can take it. Admins should stay out unless we're attacking each other. Bashing the site is harmless, like complaining about the government or the weather.

I can't understand why they would ask you to resign Lyrra. From what I have seen here you have been a brill, considerate and fair moderator and I don't think that there are many who could do your job as well. I wish you all the best in whatever you do next. 8) Catlin

Thank you, randym77. Not necessarily for "supporting" me but for helping me believe what I said has some merit. (or at least understanding what I was trying to say).

What I think is funny is funny is the guy who says "no bashing" has been known to bash r'osity himself

I almost can't blame the staff for being quick to want to issue warnings when people like Hellmark and Sargebear continually complain about how evil this place is. As others have pointed out, there are other forums to go to if you don't like it here. Some of us DO like it here, and we'd enjoy it even more if we didn't have to constantly listen to those who don't. Anyway, Happy New Year. :) SnowS

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I do not speak as a representative of DAZ, I speak only as a long-time member here. Be nice (and quit lying about DAZ) and I'll be nice too.

Snow, how often am I in the forums? Normally I stick to the chat, where I know you're not there often. In the past year I've probably posted in 4 or 5 threads. Also, when you've talked to people on the inside, some of the things you find out does make r'osity seem pretty evil.

Snow, I like it here. Don't get me wrong. There are lots of things I like here. However, I will miss Lyrra. At the same time, I know how hard it is to be a mod in this forum. I hope smitthms smoothes out a bit and I hope mods allow a bit of leeway in posts. I know it's a business and I know bills need to be paid. People just need to remember us buyers (and commenters in forums) are the basis. Artists need to be vocal sometimes and unless we start calling others we disagree with "assholes" and "dickheads", give us some leeway like Lyrra did.

Exerpt from Post 21 : I think the PTB are being very asinine in their replacing their good mods with people that can't hack it. Another Exerpt from Post 21 From what I've seen lately, the new guys are being too nice and are getting pushed around. I why I made the statement about issuing warnings..... Seems to Me...... Exerpt from Post 126 : Artists need to be vocal sometimes and unless we start calling others we disagree with "assholes" and "dickheads", give us some leeway like Lyrra did. He basically did that, hence My offer to issue warnings, Point 2..... I'm not Lyrra, & yes, certain things I will allow slack on, others I won't. Thomas Poser Coordinator

I why I made the statement about issuing warnings..... Should read : Is why I made the statement about issuing warnings.....

Smitthms, keep making threats and I can promise the boards will be empty of all but lackies and yes-men. They're artists. He wasn't CALLING people those things, he was saying, "Unless we start saying this, don't threaten us!" right now, frankly, you /are/ coming off as a bit of a jerk. Which is a word, last I checked, I can say. You seem to be flying off the handle in a totally unappropriate way in a thread that isn't even about this. To get the thread back on the topic it should be about, let me say again, Lyrra, you most definitely will be missed.

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So far, the whole truth has not been told in this thread. Out of respect for Lyrra, the staff will not bring it up. However, if Lyrra wants to bring it up, that is her option. "for reasons I may not discuss." That's up to her, not us. If Lyrra wants to openly talk about why she is no longer staff here, she will... Please show Lyrra the same respect we have. And Yes, Lyrra was a outstanding mod here and did do a great job. We all wish her well and she will be missed. Thanks Spike

You can't call it work if you love it... Zen Tambour

As long as he keeps popping into this thread. It won't die a natural death. I say this with as much respect as I can muster. Please put a leash on your dog. Thanks, -ScottA

I didn't do that though. I never called them names, just said some of the new guys haven't been able to do a good job. Saying someone is acting asinine isnt calling them an asshole. Webster's defines Asinine as "marked by inexcusable failure to exercise intelligence or sound judgment", and asshole as "usually vulgar : a stupid, incompetent, or detestable person". From what little I've done on the forums, I have seen the new guys get pushed around, that is a fact, and not an opinion as you're trying to equate it to.

blinks at ScottA I assume you're talking about Smitthms or Spike, and not myself. Otherwise, we'll have to get into a catfight. ;) And Spike, don't leave vague/cryptic remarks about devulging the reasons for her resigning. It's just kinda rude, you know? In ANY EVENT. BACK TO THE TOPIC AT HAND, FOLKS. I didn't start listening to this thread so I could watch staff and the lowly rebels duke it out. ;)

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"I didn't start listening to this thread so I could watch staff and the lowly rebels duke it out. ;)" but its so amusing to "watch the scrimmage" don't you think? hands out popcorn

Fact is, Lyrra SHOULD NOT BE AFRAID to even say why she is being fired! The mark of a good dictatorship is to install fear of the truth...

L'ultima fòrza è nella morte.

And spike, I don't think anyone will talk about the things directly related to her dismissal as long as she Lyrra wishes to remain quiet about it. Also I totally agree with ScottA, Smitty is only prolonging things by working as an catalyst instigating more. Mods, and especially coordinators, are supposed to instill calmness. I know from experience since admin and moderate elsewhere (hehe, and I get to let loose here because I don't work for r'osity)

This thread has turned into a bitching thread full of half truths. This thread has run on far to long and has drifted far from it's intent. Locking it down. Done.

You can't call it work if you love it... Zen Tambour

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