Whew! finally got it done and it's in Freestuff. a map-pack with 14 bump maps, 15 new reflection maps, 40 examples, a lighting and camera set-up, and a long-winded readme that covers it all there is to know. so if you want to make any of the fabrics above plus, as they say "many, many more!", then this is for you. the tackiest materials in town are now possible! one small prob is it's 2.5 Mb, but I couldn't get it down any more. oh, and if you don't have a black sense of humor, don't even BOTHER opening the readme! (chuckle!) And if you read this, Vethril, please don't have a heart-attack over this one! enjoy! maclean