well, I just spent the $30 on the Mobius figure and it is pretty nice and ingeniously done, although I was a little disappointed to find that the "highly detailed reflection map" advertised is 3 jpegs, one of which is from 3D Max and another 2 of standard background scenes (a sunset and a mountain) so I didn't get any mega-revalations from that. still the figure is nice and the technique of using scenery as tex and refl maps is pretty innovative. above is a P4 fem with the two Mobius maps on her skin alongside the Mobius figure as a comparison. still want to work on this maclean PS Mobius.....respect just the same