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Say hello to Dylan and Jenny - our new additions to the family!

These realistic figures are fully setup and textured and come bundled with some props, clothing, poses, expressions and animation. With over 300 facial morphs you can create practically any expression you can imagine!

Comes with a conformable diaper and sleeper bottle and soother. The Poser 5 version also has a dynamic sleeper!

Here's the dynamic sleeper! The conformable version bends just as well.

Here's a close up of the eyes in Poser 5.

Jenny posing with her mum.

Dylan and his Dad.

Some poses - both babies have moveable toes too!

Attached Link: http://www.cubed.ie/shop/details/dylanjenny_babycrawl.mov

You can see a preview of the crawling animation here.

Attached Link: http://www.cubed.ie/shop/details/dylanjenny_babyfall.mov

Here's a preview of the falling animation. You can see the dynamic sleeper in action too!

What a lovely baby :-) Wonderful eyes :-) Great work!!!

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Adorable!! How much are they in USD?

Now those are really excellent and very cute, realistic looking babies! Apparently they are Poser 5 compatible. Great looking little sleeper. I note you are selling them in your store. Is this the only spot where they will be available? How much in US dollars? The animations are also excellent.....very life-like :) Am I correct to assume that these are "original" characters or do I have to have a DAZ baby/Poser baby to use them? So far it looks like this is the only item in your store? What else do you have in the works and how soon will they be released?

So they are aprox 90.00 in US money? They are adorable

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Awwww...I am disappointed....I thought that 'Cubed Babies' was a recipe. ;) Renekah Garner Sixus1 Media

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Rebekah: You been nipping the sauce tonight? ;)

Those little guys are amazing, but a little pricey. I can't afford them, but still, awesome job.

Actually, at the current exchange rate, they'd be closer to $62. Excellent work on the infants. How are the new animals coming along?

You are right, these are great, but too much for me if they are $90.00....Sharen

I agree with most of the posts, they look great and a vast improvement on the 'evil' baby that Daz always seems to put out. But too pricey for me. best wishes Jody

62.00 isn't to bad. Will there be more clothing available later?

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That baby is scarily normal! Beautiful work

Hi there To clarify my issues on the price point. $62 is at least $20 more than the millenium style figures from Daz, that in itself makes it a very high price product. I am not saying that they are not worth that money. Normailty is a rare thing in the Poser universe, especially 'straight out of the box' and this baby actually looks pretty normal. But my worry is that a lot of money is spent on the figure, a baby figure is never going to be a high-use figure for most people, but I will be waiting for more clothing and support for the figure before committing myself. I sincerely hope it does well, it looks like it deserves to. Best wishes Jody

Hi everyone - thanks for the comments! The price in Euro is 49.99 - that is roughly $64.99. This is for both figures, the clothes animation, poses, props etc. Normally, animation and clothing would be seperate upsell items. The Millennium baby includes 1 figure, less than half the number of morphs, 1 daiper - no other clothing, no poses and no animation. BTW, our morph targets are all used for expression and some for shaping realistically. There are no alien morph or other strange things. I'll post some expression images shortly. What woul all of you consider to be a reasonable price considering all that you get in the package? Maybe you should wait until you see the expressions before you set your price! :') Chris

Hi Chris Thanks for the information, I think there's a certain psychology going on here that I'm subscribing too, somewhat subconciously I might add. I've been sitting here thinking about it, and yes, you are correct, you're offering a lot for the price. I think the issue is, at least what I'm having, is that all figures I used have been Daz figures or derived from Daz figures. This is the first non-Daz figure I have ever been tempted to buy, mostly because previous non-Daz figures have been below the standards set by that company. As a result of this I have been judging your figure solely on comparison to Daz stuff, which is unfair, but also somewhat understandable. Anyway, as mentioned this figure looks a genuine improvement over the millbaby and I'm overjoyed somebody else has made a figure for Poser. I am still musing on buying this, because I have only used the Millbaby once, but I am pushing aside my previous figure experience and pricings in order to make that decision. Lots of luck. Best wishes Jody

Oh My Gawd! It's got poseable toes!! AWESOME!

I probaly buy this if it came with a few outfits for Poser pro??? But I don't want another naked figure.

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Can I ask you all for a favour?

We would like to make the babies a success (and the animals) so we have to set our pricing structure and packaging structure right in order to maximise our sales. This is the only way that we will be able to continue to make Poser products.

Please have a look at the following ideas and tell me which one would tempt you to buy - if any. If you have other suggestions, we're open to them!

1. Sell Baby Dylan and Baby Jenny as separate items. Each comes with all of the MAT files, textures, morphs and the nappy (diaper). Each could sell for $24.99 The clothing , poses and animation would then be sold as separate items at low prices, like $9.99

2. Sell both babies together for $49.99 and sell all other items as add-on packs at low prices.

3. Sell items both separately as in idea 1 AND as a combined pack as we are currently selling it.

BTW, just to clarify - yes, these are all original meshes, not based on any DAZ product. They were created in Maya and setup from scratch. (BTW, there will also be a Maya version but it is MUCH more expensive!)

The conformable sleeper looks exactly like the dynamic sleeper and it works for Poser Pro Pack. We will also be creating clothing packs - we plan to support these figures fully!!! That means clothing, props, new morphs, ethnic variants (Black, Asian, Indian, Hispanic and more) new textures, lots of poses and animation.

#1 seems like a great deal :) Actually, 64.00 for two babys, textures, outfit, diaper, poses etc isn't a bad deal. Will there be more clothing? I tried the store link but it is dead? Passing this by hubby :) I could use a really nice baby

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If you have any problems with the stor links - try Shift-clicking the refresh button on your browser - we are still polishing some of the CGI code on the site so we have been updating a lot recently.

Same problem here. I can't FIND the product. Every time I try to access the web store "New Products" I get an error message "Unable to open ../admin/database.csv No such file or directory" Tried it with both IE and Netscape and get the same message. Otherwise, I'd be one of your first customers.

Here are the basic symmetrical expressions. These have been broken into individual components - like Angry eyes, mouth, nose etc. then broken further into left and right sides so they can be combined to create almost any imaginable expression. There are also a number of additional morphs, such as cheek sag and puff, lip synch, shaping morphs etc.

Can't see your product, even when I do the refresh thing??????????????? I get the same error. Your losing sales!!!! Got to catch me while in the mood to spenfdd money. :O) Can't get there.

Love is Grandchildren.

I get an error when trying to get to the store to buy these :( error below Unable to open ../admin/database.csv No such file or directory

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ME too again tried a 100 times. I will try later, maybe they will fix it by then.

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Er... seem to be having another CGI problem... Web guy is working on it as we speak. I'll let you know when it's fixed. I sincerely apologise for this!!! Chris tries to wipe egg off his face...

That's what happens when you get all fancy schmancy with bells and whistles on the website. wink

Well... that's what happens when you set up a database driven site. They aren't easy... Just try doing a search on the DAZ site to see what I mean... :')

Chris, while were waiting, is the file size huge? lol I'm on dial up, so very curious as to if I will be able to download it :)

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If you are going to buy the existing all-in-one product, the file sizes are as follows: Poser 5 version - 24.5 MB Poser Pro Pack - 21 Mb Poser 4 - 24.8 Mb I'll let you know what size they are split up but they won't be too small even as such with all of the textures.

Web guy says it will be about an hour or so but in the meantime - here's the backdoor! Use the appropriate link to go straight to the shopping cart: Poser 5 version: http://www.regnow.com/softsell/nph-softsell.cgi?item=10332-4&currency=EURO Poser 4 version: http://www.regnow.com/softsell/nph-softsell.cgi?item=10332-5&currency=EURO Pro Pack version: http://www.regnow.com/softsell/nph-softsell.cgi?item=10332-7&currency=EURO This is for the all-in-one version. I am currently creating seperate versions as discussed in idea #1 above. Sorry for the hassle! Chris

Took the plunge :) Hope to see a few more outfits

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Woohoo! Got 'em. Now to unzip and let them come out to play. :)

Can't get to the links above either :( While waiting, what is the difference between the P5 and PP versions? Thanks

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Poser 5 version makes extensive use of the firefly rendering engine - the babies are textured with shader nodes and texture maps - for example -the sleeper outfit uses a displacement map to give it a realistic terrytowel texture even when viewed from the side. Also, the P5 version has the morphs sorted out into logical folders and sub folders - (see image)You will notice that I have the Expressions folder open and there are subfolders inside called xxx_Components. Inside those are the breakdowns of the expressions and subfolders for the asymmetrical components. Pro Pack version is similar to the Poser 4 version - textures and bump maps only except that they are all jpg instead of BUM files. Also, the previews are PNG files. The head morphs are all in a single folder which is not as tidy as the P5 version but that's the downside of P4. You could always make a lighter version with Morph Manager I suppose... There is no Dynamic sleeper included in the PP or P4 versions... for obvious reasons. Poser 4 version is the same as PP version except it uses RSR and BUM files as needed.

Thanks for trying them out guys! Pokeydots, did you try copying and pasting those links?

yes I tried copy and paste but wouldn't work for me :(

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The links to the store are still off.....but at least I saw the product last night :) The $64 US price for both products is not a bad price if it includes all the poses, sleeper, diaper,body texture, etc......all the things shown here (except for Don and Judy, of course)! As far as comparing to DAZ.....I think we are all caught up in the "piecemeal" DAZ marketing arrangement. Sure....you can buy one strange looking DAZ baby for $30, but then you add $10.95 for total expression and pose pack, $6.95 for baby props and baby faces and you still only have "one" ugly baby with nothing to wear! :) I would be interested in purchasing this product, since I never did buy the DAZ baby. I use Poser 5 and do not have Poser 4. And I love the material room option! However, I would want both the dynamic and conforming sleeper. I still don't know P5 well enough to use all the dynamic stuff. Dynamic hair (except for the skull caps) is just too slow on my machine, and I have not quite figured out how to do dynamic clothing to make it look natural. Most merchants who do products with Poser 5 ini mind,provide both, so users have the option. You make that change (a combined PP and P5 product) and you will have a sale from me! Either that or explain to me why just buying the P5 product won't limit me :) As for the comment: "This is the first non-Daz figure I have ever been tempted to buy, mostly because previous non-Daz figures have been below the standards set by that company" I couldn't disagree more. Sixus produces a wide range of excellent products (albeit, a bit of a niche line of products)that probably exceed DAZ standards in many respects. Curio has produced excellent characters that are now being purchased by DAZ. And now Anton is working on a male figure that may eventually blow the DAZ males away! DAZ just sells more stuff....that's all :) I look forward to more from your company Chris :)

Store is working now :) At least for me, so I'm downloading now! Can't wait to try them out!

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Yup! Store is back up - sorry for the delay! Sandoppe, The Poser 5 version has a dynamic sleep AND the conformable one. All of the material room settings are preset for all figures, MAT files (more on this below) and the sleeper. There doesn't seem to be any way of retaining the cloth room settings for a library item but I can write a document with the settings that we used for it if you like. As for the MAT files - we hand made them to include all of the material node settings so they are true P5 MAT files. If you own P5 - there is no reason to use any version of the model other than the P5 version. That doesn't mean that you can't - they are all fairly cross compatible but there was no need to burden everyone with a one-size-fits-all file. It would have been about 40MB!!!

Chris is there a texture template for the babies? Still downloading so didn't know if there was one or not :) Thanks!

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Yes there is! Ours is a little different than most. We have the inner mouth areas on the body map in order to free up room for the head. BTW, the P5 version includes an abundance of maps - Diffuse colour (the usual) specularity map, transparency map, Bump/displacement map, reflection map, ambient map and ambient occlusion map. These work with shader nodes to create the effects that you see in the renders above - like the sheen on the skin of the forehead and the glossiness of the lips.

Thanks :) I just got finished downloading :) Time to play!

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Ok Chris! That's what I was hoping to hear :) I'm on my work computer right now, but you tell that web guy to keep that store up and running and I will grab them tonight as soon as I get home from my City Council meeting! By then pokeydots will have posted a "cuter than hell" image to motivate all of us!!! :)

Will someone do a 'Cubed Baby on Bed of Lettuce w/ Cream Sauce' for image for me ? :) Actually, they look much more like human children than the those 'other' babies. Rebekah Garner Sixus1 Media

Hmmm.. sounds very "Anne Geddes" to me. Hey! That might not be a bad idea for clothing packs! Cute Anne Geddes style costumes! Er... maybe later....

Rebekah: Depending on my mood after that City Council meeting tonight, I might be up for a "babies ala cream sauce" image :) Run out of food for the Minotaur over there? LOL! If you guys ever get that "baby grey" ready, what a great companion he would be for this cute little human!! A whole new "Close Encounter" movie in the works! :)

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sandoppe here is an image for you :) And Anne Geddes costumes would be great!

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These babies are just to cute :)

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Careful Chris......the mere mention of someone famous can start a whole shit storm of copyright conversation over here :)

Oh you guys!! Pokeydots I knew you would come through!! :) Did you brush out that little sleeper or did the little fella stick his finger in the outlet? Looks great kiddo!! :) And that little fairy thingee is too cute kayjay :)

My comment referring to non-daz figures being substandard was in relation to 'human' characters. In terms of beasties, monsters, robots and all things weird I am the first to admit that some are excellant (Sixus1 being obvious, but also BeyondBent is top notch). Just to clarify. Best wishes Jody

Kayjay your baby is adorable! And sandoppe, I used the displacement is poser, I just followed the thread that Cath (Mec4D) posted about using it :) Now run and buy those babies ;o)

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Gotcha Jody! No offense meant :) I just love seeing good alternatives to the "all DAZ" products :) It's good for the community to have other options :)

Still on the work computer pokeydots! The City Council meeting should be done about 9 p.m. central time. Then I'll be buying the babies and seeing what kind of mischief I can create :)

I've got to say Sandoppe, I'm hoping for Anton's male figure, Mike 3 just hasn't done it for me, I've used him like once or twice in a scene, he looks, well, very girlish :-) Thanks for the info on that one, I'll keep my eye peeled for that one. Best wishes Jody

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Jody: There are a couple of posts here about it. Here's one of them. It's still in development, but the proportions and flexibility look great. Take a look if you haven't seen him.

Amazing.... I almost wish I needed a baby lol.... Well if all your stuff is going to be this good, you won't have trouble finding customers. :] Fish

I'm also really looking forward to Maximus. As far as the cubed babies, I would probably be more tempted to buy if they weren't it the same package. Since the babies have been created by the same artists as the makers of Don and Judy, does this mean that Dylan and Jenny will work in the faceroom?

What type of lighting are you all using on the babys. Everything I tried makes there eyes to white, or washed out. ????? Using poser pro.

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Finally got to the right computer, purchased and downloaded the babies :) Now I get to play a bit before the lights have to go out. Just one question Chris: I notice you charge sales tax? Is that required in Ireland (I think that's where you said you were)? It's not a requirement in most states in the US unless something happened in the last few days I haven't heard about yet!! :) Anyway.....that jacks the price up a bit, although not significantly. Now....on to play.

"Poser 5 version makes extensive use of the firefly rendering engine" It's about time some more vendors realized that maybe P5 is going to stay and not go away if they stick their head in the sand long enough!

Looks like the Minotaur wants to play......but Dylan doesn't want to share!! This is one great and realistic baby! And....I might add....one great and real looking Minotaur! :)

LOL, how cute :)

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LMAO @ Sandoppe! OMG this is too cute! He's one tough little guy! I'm thinking minotaur better give him back his binky or he's going home with his ears boxed!

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Hey sandoppe here is another image for you ;o) Cubed Cabbage Kid!

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PapaBlueMarlin, The face room is for adding pre-made adult faces in different combinations to the default Poser 5 heads. The head needs to have a special marker in the code for the face room to recognise it. Also, there has to be a special polygon marker in the centre of the eyes for the face room to know where to shift the eyeballs in relation to the new head shape. In addition (and most importantly) the head mesh MUST be the Poser 5 head mesh - ours is not, it's an original mesh. So.. if your goal was to put adult heads on the babies, I'm afraid your out of luck... However, they should be slicker than snot with the face putty tool!!!! The face putty tool works with existing morphs on the model and allows you to shape the face manually. The more high quality morphs a model has, the better your control with the face putty. The Cubed Babies have over 300 facial morphs!!!

My God, you people are fast artists!!! I can't believe the renders you have created already! LMAO at the Minotaur one! The Cabbage Patch render looks like a totally different baby! Did you find the shaping morphs easy enough to use? Please don't forget to tell us what you think about using the babies. Any comments about what you like and don't like about using them will help us with our other products and with updates to the babies.

My wife mistook my "I want a baby!" shout, so after a delay I'm just downloading those luverly little ones! I wish you every success with them Chris, they're charming!

They look amazing - congratulations :) Re: thread #29, I'd be interested in buying option 3: 3) Sell items both separately as in idea 1 AND as a combined pack as we are currently selling it. Good luck - I'm sure they'll be very succesful for you :) ali x

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Pokey dots: That cabbage patch baby is awesome! Whose props are you using there? Guess you made use of that template! :) Great work!

Y'know, I bet that Minotaur up there is just feeling playful after ingesting some of the Cubed Baby recipe with a nice hollandaise sauce. Very cute image that one!

Well with Valentine's around the corner.....just an idea. I added songbird wings in Photoshop.

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PheonixRising those are adorable :) Chris, I am not having any problems so far with any of the morphs, but beware, I tend to do ugly things to my toys sooner or later >:) (just kidding) sandoppe, the cabbage leaves and hat (all the same prop, just scaled) I made in rhino, and the flowers are my fun flower props, they are at 3DCommune And the texture on the baby is the one that comes with them :)

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Anton! Great minds think alike_ I've gotta have a go at that!

ChrisD Do you charge TAX????? If so, what tax for who?

I had the same question Philywebrider. I was charged sales tax on the purchase. While the State of Minnesota does have a state sales tax of 6.5%, it does not apply (so far as I know) to internet purchases outside of the state of Minnesota, so I'm not sure who Chris will pay the tax to. I've noticed that here at Rendo, Tennessee residents are charged sales tax, but I think that may be because Renderosity is based in Tennessee?? I know that when I purchase from Jasc software online, they charge me sales tax, but they are a Minnesota based company. I think states do this so as not to disadvantage other state based businesses who do not sell over the internet. But this does not apply to purchases made from out of state firms. This could be a glitch in Chris's store set up?

Sandoppe-I'm no tax expert but, like you said, I too thought the general rule was, if the seller had a store in the state of the customer...then the customer paid tax, if the seller did not have a store in the state of the customer, no tax was required... Unless the law changed. So if they are charging tax, who is getting the money? ChrisD-Again, I'm no tax expert, can you help by explaining. Is there a glitch as sandoppe suggested? If the laws have changed it could mean big changes on Renderosity, Daz, etc.

Well they are in Ireland. Perhaps the rules of their country are different.

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Hi PheonixRising-Your proability right, I was just hoping ChrisD could explain a little, if that is the case.

Tax rules have to be real pain for people trying to sell anything, much less internationally. Hopefully Chris gets some time to explain. I think he's going to sell a basket full of babies no matter what :) They are some very fine models. I love the amazing number of morphs that are available and the ease of their use. What's nice is that you cannot exceed certain limits with most of them....prevents breaking when you try to apply anything too extreme. Have only run into one issue: When you apply the expressions (faces)in poser 5, you get the statement that "they don't apply to some figures" or something like that. It's the same message you get when you try to apply a P5 character pose to a DAZ model. The expressions do apply, however, in spite of the message.

I've been playing with this new baby this evening and have to say it is superb (I went for the P5 version even tho' I tend to work mostly with ProPak because of the comments about the morph set ups and I wanted the option of the dynamic clothing) The head morphs are simply spot on_ I just couldn't help laughing out loud at the realism of some of the compound 'expression' morphs. It would have been nice to see more whole body morphs for different physiques and perhaps some grasp dials for working the toes together (yes they do pose individually) The total body and head shape and the way it poses is a real advance on the millenium baby. The textures are lovely and render extremely well using the firefly renderer. The male 'undercarriage' is sensibly modelled :the female a little 'coy' but one can understand this these days. Putting aside the tax issue (which I can't with authority comment on_but would have thought only applied to European Union purchasers_being VAT) I think this is a fair price for the quality of the model. However, I think this should probably be regarded as the gold standard baby model, it is a bit 'niche' so an alternative strategy might have been to loss lead with it,get your new companies name known and go for volume sales_ but heck its hard to decide these things! If the baby is a good example of whats to come I think we are in for a treat!!

Hi everyone, The tax issue is a little complicated. Yes we are in Ireland but technically, we are selling our products from the USA because the files are hosted by RegNow - an American company. They are also the holders of the merchant account. I'm not sure what state they are in but certain US orders will automatically have tax added to them - it's out of our hands. We have no ciontrol over the merchant account - just the price. As for the expression problem - that's a P5 issue that I've seen before - I will correct it and upload a new version. I will e-mail new expression pz2 files to anyone that has already downloaded the P5 version. Chris

I have the same expression problem in ProPak, not sure why. How do you fix it? If it's a simple enough process I can probably do it myself. Which, now that I think about it, would be great because I have a lot of vicky stuff that gives me the same message. Hmmm... another tutorial for someone to post? :) Kate

Thanks for the explanation on the tax thing Chris and for the upcoming P5 fix :) Noggin: It might be easier for them to do the "loss lead" thing on a model that has obviously not had as much invested time wise. The way I figure, I only spent about $15 more (if you don't count the tax) for two babies than I would have for one DAZ baby with morphs and props included. I still would not have had a little sleeper outfit or as cute a baby. Plus, I would not have had the option of buying a fully "Poser 5 compatible" baby from DAZ 5!:) I really agree with you on the head morphs and the over all ease of use of these models. So far I haven't tried the little girl......I personally think Dylan is the cutest :) So Chris.....someone indicated that you designed Judy and Don? Did you design Will and Penny too? :) If so, please don't take offense (I have a habit of being blunt, I'm afraid), but it is clear that you have learned much since then :) Or maybe.....limits were set by CL that were beyond your control. In any case, you have certainly made your skills evident with this creation. I can hardly wait to see what's next!

You are right of course Sandoppe. I had a bit of 'shall I shan't I'before I purchased but I have no reservations having had a play tonight. There's an enormous lot of work and thought gone in to the whole package. I for one am very happy with the product and price and its good to have the whole package as one. Don't you just love that 'almost crying' morph_ we need a quivering lower lip and upper body shudder animation to go with this. Ah it does bring back happy memories of sleepless nights!

Yes.....and the "anger", "surprised" and "laughing" one as well :) This is the first "human" model that you can actually make laugh without it looking totally stupid!! :) That's how good these morphs are!

These are very beautiful, but the package as presented is way more than I need (and a little pricey). I'd love to be able to buy the babies separately, as has been suggested, and the pose pack and other stuff (crawling animation, for example) separately. I never, never EVER do animations, so for me, adding that in as a "value" you get is pointless. You may as well include instructions written in ancient Greek and it would be just as valuable to me... ;-) I would REALLY love to have these models, but not the package as presented, and not with all the extra stuff... Please? I've wanted a really good looking Poser baby for ages... ;) bonni

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Well I think the babies are great as I think all agree. If the babies are signs of thing to come you guys are going to be very popular.

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elizabyte, We have created new packages as follows: Baby Dylan - includes Dylan model - all morphs, conformable diaper, all textures and MAT files. 24.99 Euro Baby Jenny - includes Jenny model - all morphs, conformable diaper, all textures and MAT files. 24.99 Euro Baby Clothing and Props - Includes Sleeper (conformable only for P4 and PP - conformable and dynamic for P5) conformable diaper, bottle, soother, and textures. 9.99 Euro Baby animation and poses - Includes 10 still poses, 2 animated poses and 6 facial expressions. 9.99 Euro They take a little time to get through the staging at RegNow but they should be in the shop by tomorrow. We will still be offering the existing all-in-one package. I hope this helps your decision! :') Chris

Sandoppe, Sticky one there... Yes, I designed Don, Judy, Will and Penny originally - or as we called them, Alex, Adrienne, Adam and Alison. I brought some of my own crew into that project and we created some terrific figures. However, we weren't the only members of the team. We did the initial design and modeling but these had to change radically to suit the restrictions imposed by the face room. The morphs, textures, and Judy's face and final design were done by a different team. I had artistic control of the original design - the rest was out of my hands. Don't blame the other team though, they did a great job considering how little time they had to do it in. They really flew along. In a perfect world, we would all have as much time as we needed to do the job right. Poser 5 was a panic from day 1. BTW, My Judy was designed to look like a Frazzetta girl. And before anyone asks - no I can't show you - I had to destroy all of my files when P5 went to gold master. I'm going to be out of town all weekend so don't take my silence for ignoring you. I'll visit again on Monday. Bye for now! Chris

Thanks for the explanation Chris :) I always had the feeling Poser 5 was made by a "committee" :) I agree with Anton.....your future characters are going to be very popular :)

Not by committee - by a team. A team under a great deal of pressure. Seriously, I'm proud of what we managed to accomplish in so short a span of time. Actually leaving now. Bye until Monday! Chris

BTW, My Judy was designed to look like a Frazzetta girl. And before anyone asks - no I can't show you - That would have been GREAT!! Rebekah

As you should be Chris......those of us who purchased a Poser 5 that did not seem quite ready for prime time, still have a tendency to express our frustration over what was potentially a great product. I also understand the "pressure" thing....been there and done that......and it ultimately takes a toll. Your original idea sounds great. I had no idea what a Frazzetta girl was until Rebekah commented and I did a google search :) If I'm looking at the right thing, she would certainly not have been the typical fashion model we see so much of.....and that would indeed have been very good!:)

I have absolutely no use for a baby figure, but the following sentence tempts me to buy it just to explore the possibilitys of the materials:

BTW, the P5 version includes an abundance of maps - Diffuse colour (the usual) specularity map, transparency map, Bump/displacement map, reflection map, ambient map and ambient occlusion map

Finally somebody does a product that really uses the P5 material room! I wish we wold get something like that for Don or Michael3.

Yes....it is very different. Each node is image mapped idependently. I haven't seen another product that maps this way.

Chris, I wish you the best with the new product. It looks great. Good luck. Steve

Yay! Thanks, Chris! Got it bookmarked. ;) I do wish you success with this. They are lovely little creatures. Any plans for a toddler... ? ;-) bonni

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Lovely cute little babies!!!! :)

how do you get the separate packs? they don't seem to appear in your store.

Hi! I'm back from my trip! The individual babies are up now as is theseparate clothing pack. The animation and pose pack is not up yet. Thanks for all the encouragement everyone! cobaltdream, you select the version you want with the drop down menu at the bottom of the description - right where the price is.