I'm just being geeky... Yeah, this is a horrible render. No textures, nada. She ain't even got eyes yet... that's because I deleted them... they get added later. There's something special about this though... This Vicky was posed and rendered in Carrara 3, NOT in Poser. NOT Daz Studio, either. And no plugin, this is native Carrara bones. Still haven't finished the rig, got the hands, head and shoulders to finish, but I'm just so pleased I got the legs to bend correctly finally. The thigh hip joint is the worst joint in the whole human body, I am convinced...