Forum: Bryce

Subject: Bryce Benchmarks

mloates opened this issue on Feb 09, 2004 ยท 69 posts

mloates posted Mon, 09 February 2004 at 8:28 PM

Attached Link: http://www.gauchito.com/bryce/render_times/

After amethyss' comment about render times, I thought it might be intersting to have a benchmark thread. At the link is a file originally prepared by Eric Wenger to be used to benchmark render times. It's a .br3 file, so can be used on different versions of Bryce. It's also available in both PC and Mac versions. Here's the screenshot after I rendered it. I didn't adjust anything--just load and render.

ibassplayer205 posted Mon, 09 February 2004 at 8:52 PM

sounds interesting, i think ill give it a whirl.

ibassplayer205 posted Mon, 09 February 2004 at 9:08 PM

heres my try, probably one of the slowest you will see :-)

shadowdragonlord posted Mon, 09 February 2004 at 9:21 PM

Aye, I like that benchmark, too, but it's old and all of our PC's smoke the ones posted. Even "our" Macs! Also, it doesn't really flex Bryce's renderer much... I'll post my screenshot when I get home!

Wadus posted Mon, 09 February 2004 at 9:26 PM

here is my time...

mloates posted Mon, 09 February 2004 at 9:28 PM

Forgot to mention my machine speces--it's a P4, 2.2GHz, 1 GB RAM, running Bryce5 on WinXP Home. Shadow, I realize it's an old and relatively simple file. At least that way, we won't be rendering something for hours on end :) This way, it's quick and easy to do.

Wadus posted Mon, 09 February 2004 at 9:38 PM

yeah, I guess specs would be nice ;) Athlon XP 1900+ 1152M RAM on XP home and Bryce 5

MuddyGrub posted Mon, 09 February 2004 at 9:45 PM

Lets see I'm running Bryce 5...

P4 2.25, 512 Rambus memory, Win2k.

I didnt gain much on render to disk at... 3:45.

Wadus posted Mon, 09 February 2004 at 9:53 PM

I just tried render to disk and got 3:13, so it saved about 10 seconds...

Nukeboy posted Mon, 09 February 2004 at 10:04 PM

Curious: what are the render perameters? Regular w/ antialias, B5 w/rpp?

Swade posted Mon, 09 February 2004 at 10:04 PM

Here's mine.... AthlonXP 2100+ 1 gig DDR RAM WinXP Pro

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haloedrain posted Mon, 09 February 2004 at 10:05 PM

whoah, look at those times on that page, the bottom ones are in the hours! I got 3:14 at the regular render, and 3:03 on render to disk. WinXP, 512 ram, Pentium 4 2.66 Ghz. Just out of curiosity though, what do you plan to do with all these times?

kimpe posted Mon, 09 February 2004 at 10:05 PM

Well here's mine. Win 98, 1.44 GHz, 512 Mb RAM, Bryce 5.

Swade posted Mon, 09 February 2004 at 10:09 PM

Nukeboy.... Just open the file in Bryce5 and render.smiley.gif

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Nukeboy posted Mon, 09 February 2004 at 10:18 PM

Okay. B5 regular antialias setting...

HP Pavillion laptop; 512 Ram; 1.65 gHz processor..

Swade posted Mon, 09 February 2004 at 10:19 PM

And render to disk is even faster again.... AthlonXP 2100+ 1 gig DDR RAM WinXP Pro

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ShawnDriscoll posted Mon, 09 February 2004 at 10:19 PM

06:21 using a PIII-1000Mhz 512MB Windows98SE system.

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Nukeboy posted Mon, 09 February 2004 at 10:27 PM

Gol darn you som bich, Swade... "I feel the need for speed..."

Swade posted Mon, 09 February 2004 at 10:42 PM

Lol @ Nukeboy. cooldude.gif

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Flak posted Mon, 09 February 2004 at 11:25 PM

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chohole posted Tue, 10 February 2004 at 1:20 AM

ye dogs FLak, what sort of machine are you using. I thought mine was slow at present, and I got 3:44 on an athlon 1.7 with 512 of pc133 ram.

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danamo posted Tue, 10 February 2004 at 1:57 AM

P4 2.4 Ghz, 256MB, WinXP home.

RobertJ posted Tue, 10 February 2004 at 3:22 AM

Athlon 1.8, 1 gig mem, windows XP home Maybe a restart would have helped a bit, had been playing the Beta Ragnarok Online Europa for about an hour, it screws the memory a bit :)

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Rayraz posted Tue, 10 February 2004 at 4:43 AM

3:28 on P4 2.4ghz 512mb ram laptop while doing other stuff.

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Gog posted Tue, 10 February 2004 at 5:28 AM

Uurrghhh, Laptop (600M pIII, Win 2k) does 11 min. Network render with laptop and a twin 1 gig pIII still 5 min! Oh well that's what you get with 3 year old machinery

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johnyf posted Tue, 10 February 2004 at 7:15 AM

Athlon2200XP (=2Ghz), 1Gb ram. Render to disc 2.40.

JC_01 posted Tue, 10 February 2004 at 7:48 AM

lol well, that answers a few things..... *waves and slips out again*

Aldaron posted Tue, 10 February 2004 at 8:17 AM

3:17 Bryce 5.1, AMD Athlon 2000+xp(=2.0 GHz, labeled 1.67), 512 MB RAM, Win 2000 Pro

Gog posted Tue, 10 February 2004 at 8:31 AM

I'll try this out on Ol' Reliable, my trusty o/clocked 450M pII tonight, I'll report in a few days when it's finished rendering :-)

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croowe posted Tue, 10 February 2004 at 9:21 AM

Using Bryce 5.01, AMD Athlon XP 2200+, 1.8GHz, 480 MB RAM on Windows XP home edition.

madmax_br5 posted Tue, 10 February 2004 at 9:47 AM

my computer renders in 1:45 and then takes 5 minutes to anti-alias :/ Premium rendering is faster.

pakled posted Tue, 10 February 2004 at 10:34 AM

done at work on the Dell GX1, 256 meg of memory..now you know why I do most renders at home..;)

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amethyss posted Tue, 10 February 2004 at 10:38 AM

Trying still to get it down more with the 2:55 time. It has XP Home... Maybe turn all progs off while rendering.Might work. Don't think I can improve the other time of 4:59 on other machine.It has XP Pro This was a cool demo.Thanks

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jstsittinghere posted Tue, 10 February 2004 at 10:52 AM

great thread! this is fun , thanks

shadowdragonlord posted Tue, 10 February 2004 at 12:33 PM

Well, Haloedrain, the only reason to benchmark stuff is to get an idea of which hardware configurations are the most time-profitable for us... In this case, until people with Macs start posting, anyway, Johnny's Athlon 2200 takes the cake. The factors involved, as far as I understand it, are : Processor speed RAM amount FSB speed HD speed (NOT capacity) When the Render Time (Rt) equals 1/60th of a second, we will have realtime rendering. That's when all of our old Bryce scenes become gold, in terms of the video-game industry and of course the imaging and virtual reality industries. Processors need be a mere 200 times faster or so to accomplish this, which seems ludicrous, but then again, when the Commodore 64 came out at a whopping 1 MHz processor speed, who would have thought we'd be pulling GHz so soon, and for so cheap? Also, financially... The fastest renderers are also, to invert some obnoxious Law of Money for once, the cheapest! Some people stand by Intel, but alas... Let's see some Mac render times? ANYONE?!?!? (grins)

Brendan posted Tue, 10 February 2004 at 12:52 PM

...well! here is a sad old mac user reporting in ....

This was done on my 4 year old Power PC G4 - 533 MHz.

At first, I thought it was shame making but when I did the sums, things did not look so bleak.

I am going to skip a generation and see what G6 has to offer.

Speaking as a visual person! why do we never talk about monitors? I sometimes wonder if folks are seeing my images in quite the same way as I am? It has been said a few times of my work that things "look a bit dark". I have a LACIE ELECTRON 22 Blue which shows everything in the most splendid colours and definition, the clarity is startling, even with what I perceive to be colouristicaly dull images.

Seeing as Brendan McSherry has laid his Power PC Cyber Testicals on the table for every one to see! ....show me your Monitors, speed and size of chip ain't everything!

drawbridgep posted Tue, 10 February 2004 at 1:45 PM

3:42 on XP Home, Bryce 5, 2.4ghz P4 Presario 1525 Laptop, 512 ram. I shut down as much as I could but still had a lot of TSR running. THis shows various things. I'm jealous of Swade and jonhnyf And feel sorry for JC_01. I'll be upgrading my laptop soon then.

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amethyss posted Tue, 10 February 2004 at 5:06 PM

Brendan :Speaking as a visual person! why do we never talk about monitors? That's sort of why I started all this before,because I have this new Sony S73 LCD Monitor, and was kind of discouraged comparing it to my other Samsung 171s also LCD that I have,which looked washed out almost.Soooo.I made the guy who owns the PC company a website and he gave me another new Sony.Now side by side,I know it is the video card. The Samsung is still in my opinion not quite as good because the blacks on sony are real black,and white is real white. I tweak from defaults a bit on reds ,and contrast,but thats about it. Now if someone can tell me what is real green.LOL

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Flak posted Tue, 10 February 2004 at 6:13 PM

Chohole - thats my pIII 450 with its 320 MB of ram.. the one I use for all my 3d stuff..... one day I'll get a new PC... Though, must admit, I'm dying to know what JC_01 is using.

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johnyf posted Tue, 10 February 2004 at 6:19 PM

Actually guys I gave you the wrong specs. My comp was originally an Athlon 2200+ XP and it went back(endless problems) and as part of the compensation for the expense I had they upgraded it to a 2400+ XP which is 2Ghz!

Zhann posted Tue, 10 February 2004 at 7:00 PM

Thought I'd give it a try, Dell P4 @ 2.53GHz, 2048MB PC800 RDRAM, 120GB 7200RPM hard drive

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Zhann posted Tue, 10 February 2004 at 7:02 PM

Oh, I forgot that I was downloading 115MB resource pack at the time...that usually slows things down somewhat..

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shadowdragonlord posted Tue, 10 February 2004 at 9:31 PM

This is my Pentium 2/266 at work, 128MB PC66, Bryce 4. Amazing, truly.

shadowdragonlord posted Tue, 10 February 2004 at 9:36 PM

Funny, but I wonder where the other 8 million intersect attempts went in the Bryce 4 render? I'll post an Athlon one when I get home...

wildman2 posted Tue, 10 February 2004 at 9:44 PM

3:13 to screen 3:03 to disk athlon xp2000, 512 ddr ram, 7200rpm hd, win2000pro

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_Fredzz_ posted Tue, 10 February 2004 at 9:53 PM

i'll post mine laters cuz im rendering now two works at a time.. so more one should give some problems to my Celeron 700mhz 320mbram.. lol.. laugh laugh... but it works fine but takes fuckin time to render shit... eheh

danamo posted Wed, 11 February 2004 at 1:59 AM

Well this surprised me! My gateway laptop, P4 2.4ghz, 256MG, 30Gig hard drive, smoked my desktop as far as rendering this file. This machine is running XPhome and Bryce4.

shadowdragonlord posted Wed, 11 February 2004 at 3:05 AM

Aye, another interesting point, this was on a Duron 1100 MHz using SDRAM. I rendered it with 256 MB and then with 512, and the 512 was 4 seconds slower... Something about paging, perhaps? Or maybe one of the sticks was 100 and the other was 133? (shrugs)

Brendan posted Wed, 11 February 2004 at 5:35 AM

Hi Amethyss, thankfully my sister, who is a printmaker, looks after the calibrations, even though the LACIE came with it's own elaborate software, the scanner and monitor have to be brought into line for consistent results from screen to print. As for the perfect green!, dangle a ring necked parakeet in front of the screen and tune untill the bird dissapears against the background, remember to cover the keyboard, as this is often a messy process. I wonder if any one here has experimented with rendering in different colour profiles from the default in Bryce? One to look into!

Gog posted Wed, 11 February 2004 at 7:32 AM

Attached Link: http://bryce-alive.net/calibrate/

Lol, if you are a parakeet lover you may prefer to use Bryce Alive's monitor calibration page, can be printed to calibrate complete sytstem. I was going to say 'or use Colorific', but it looks like colorific is no more :-(

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shadowdragonlord posted Wed, 11 February 2004 at 1:06 PM

Aye, that's horrible, I have Colorific and have stood by it for years! Maybe it's the stupid name they chose, or their underpowered website that killed them...

catlin_mc posted Wed, 11 February 2004 at 7:00 PM

Just found you lot here so I haven't tried this yet, but I will, asap. 8) The results are great, I wish I still had my old puter to try it out on, it was a AMD K series 300MHz with 64Mb ram. It ran as slowly as treacle which is probably why I didn't use Bryce or Poser much back then. lol 8) I'll render it when I get off line and post it later. I now have a Athlon 2.5+GHz with 1.5Gb ddr ram which should be pretty fast. Catlin

pauljs75 posted Wed, 11 February 2004 at 8:11 PM

HP Pavilion 8755C, P-III 850 MHz, Intel chipset graphics, 512MB RAM. Ack! Now I know why I do more modeling than rendering. Makes me wonder about my ol' Presario 1690, AMD K6-II 450 MHz, ATI, 128MB laptop... *When the Render Time (Rt) equals 1/60th of a second, we will have realtime rendering. That's when all of our old Bryce scenes become gold, in terms of the video-game industry and of course the imaging and virtual reality industries. Processors need be a mere 200 times faster or so to accomplish this, which seems ludicrous, but then again, when the Commodore 64 came out at a whopping 1 MHz processor speed, who would have thought we'd be pulling GHz so soon, and for so cheap?* Well, all you need is a hundred 2GHz machines networked and running Bryce Lightning. LOL! (If only I had the resources to pull it off, and somehow manage to get the network working around 100%.) Of course if I could have acess to real time rendering, I would accomplish a lot more with still images - also I would give animation a LOT more consideration. ;)

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madmax_br5 posted Wed, 11 February 2004 at 9:04 PM

I closed my window a while ago, but my time was: 1:45 without anti-alisasing 6:45 with anti-aliasing 6:05 "fineart" anti-aliasing at 4 rays-per-pixel 35:02 premium AA with DOF at 36 rays per pixel. Powermac G4 933Mhz "quicksilver" 1.5 GB SDRAM crappy crappy slow 5200 RPM 80 GIG HD 17" apple flat panel Geforce Ti4600 - 128MB gfx card

haloedrain posted Wed, 11 February 2004 at 9:10 PM

Well, all you need is a hundred 2GHz machines networked and running Bryce Lightning. LOL! (If only I had the resources to pull it off, and somehow manage to get the network working around 100%.) Y'know, I think I might actually have the resources for that. I live on a big university campus, so there are already thousands of computers on the network, I'll I'd have to do is take over a few computer labs or the computers of my 100 or so closest friends (or both!). Seems like an awful lot of effort, though, and it's probably hard to install stuff on the university computers without permission. What I really want to use is the supercomputer center! [note to self: make friends with computer science grad students]

shadowdragonlord posted Wed, 11 February 2004 at 9:44 PM

(grins at Madmax, you KNOW I've been waiting to see YOURS!) I love ya, man... Honestly, it's probably your 5200 RPM HD that's slowing it down more than the Mac-factor. I remember my old 8 GB storage drive, back in the Pentium-2 days, and having to wait half an hour to save a 20 MB scene file! As for YOU, PaulJS, I REFUSE to have merely the SECOND slowest benchmark time! I'm off to rebuild some old Pentium 1's, dig up some 8MB SIMMs... we'll see who has the last laugh! (grins)

madmax_br5 posted Wed, 11 February 2004 at 11:39 PM

we'll re-run this benchmark when i get my G5 :D

xenic101 posted Fri, 13 February 2004 at 10:19 PM

I'm downloading the file now. ETA::9 more minutes. I'll render it in a while and let you know the time in the morning.

xenic101 posted Sat, 14 February 2004 at 10:25 AM

This is the machine I use. Gunna show my wife this thread, maybe we can up 'new computer' on the priority list.

And this is why all my pic are so ameturish, my learning curve is like 12 times longer than average because of hardware.

ttops posted Sat, 14 February 2004 at 3:11 PM

:)

shadowdragonlord posted Sat, 14 February 2004 at 4:36 PM

(grunts at ttops!)

pauljs75 posted Sun, 15 February 2004 at 11:38 AM

As for YOU, PaulJS, I REFUSE to have merely the SECOND slowest benchmark time! I'm off to rebuild some old Pentium 1's, dig up some 8MB SIMMs... we'll see who has the last laugh! (grins) I've been pushed up from the slowest now... (Makes you third slowest now.) So now you have xenic101 to watch out for ShadowDragonLord. LOL... Now I'll have to get out my old laptop... Hahahaha! :p

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ttops posted Sun, 15 February 2004 at 12:38 PM

Hehehe... My old laptop doesn't even have enough drive space to load Bryce... So, where have all the Mac users gone??? ;)

Swade posted Mon, 08 November 2004 at 10:49 PM

AMD Athlon 3000+ 1 Gig RAM

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pogmahone posted Tue, 09 November 2004 at 3:21 AM

I feel for you, xenic101 :^( Did you get a new pc since then? Windows XP Home, 512MB, Radeon 9200 128MB

krimpr posted Tue, 19 July 2005 at 3:55 PM

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krimpr posted Tue, 19 July 2005 at 3:57 PM

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xenic101 posted Tue, 19 July 2005 at 9:39 PM

krimpr, you just bookmarked a year old thread. Twice. :p

krimpr posted Wed, 20 July 2005 at 5:22 AM

Attached Link: http://www.renderosity.com/messages.ez?ForumID=107&Form.ShowMessage=2345011

Yeah.... once was on purpose; twice was foolishness. I was trying to ambush a possible new response from the thread at the link. I figured it was better to bm rather than just sit here and wait. Glad you showed up though, thanks for pulling over!