gtrias opened this issue on Feb 14, 2004 ยท 18 posts
gtrias posted Sat, 14 February 2004 at 4:12 PM
Can anyone direct me to some turn of the century clothing and or props - 1900's. Mens coats, womens long skirts, blouses with the poofy shoulders, bun hairdo's that kind of thing? Victoria or Michael not required, P4M & F would be just great.
Thanks in advance
Gtrias
ockham posted Sat, 14 February 2004 at 4:16 PM
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Alla's "Elleana Hair" is ideal.PhilC posted Sat, 14 February 2004 at 4:24 PM
Attached Link: http://www.philc.net
I have some period men's suites on my site. Look in the Poser 4 section of the Catalog.Nance posted Sat, 14 February 2004 at 8:41 PM
RHaseltine posted Sun, 15 February 2004 at 9:11 AM
Attached Link: http://secure.daz3d.com/shop.php?op=itemdetails&item=1400
DAZ has the Ashley dress, by AprilYSH, and DarkWhisper's 1890s dress, plus a set of texture by RenaPD http://secure.daz3d.com/shop.php?op=itemdetails&item=842hauksdottir posted Sun, 15 February 2004 at 1:25 PM
SergeMarck had the best all around selection of period clothing for females, but that part of his site is now gone. :( PhilC's Victorians have the right silhouette, and I think there are free textures for them. For more variety, slightly different hats will help. Look under hat or bonnet here and at 3dcommune and maybe PoserPros. Cal's site has lots of props for turn-of-the-century settings. www.wg3d.com (IIRC) Look at the CDs! JeanC also has old-time props. Carolly
pakled posted Sun, 15 February 2004 at 1:44 PM
there used to be a site called 'Poser Fashion' that had a boatload of dresses, but I think it was mostly 18th and 19th Century..but not sure if that would help or not.
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gtrias posted Sun, 15 February 2004 at 10:07 PM
Thanks for all the input! I'll give them a look. This helps immensely. I'm working on a museum interior right now and I needed some simple prop figures with the right profile. gtrias
hauksdottir posted Sun, 15 February 2004 at 10:45 PM
What sort of interior? (I assume something like a diorama.) Domestic or factory or American western or French art scene? This can help alert us to the right sort of props and such to point you towards. Because of the lack of instantaneous communications, it took years, if not decades, for fashion updates to spread across the world. Some styles blew through quickly yet burned themselves into the communal memory (leg-o-mutton shoulders). Other styles were a bit resistant to change (we had to deal with the bustle TWICE). Carolly
gtrias posted Mon, 16 February 2004 at 2:24 PM
I'm working on a rendering of a turn of the century American factory and a residental interior in 3ds max I'm going to be using the poser figures as manequins and realpeople content for the 20th century people. I've got the victorian couple from PhilC so we'll see how it works. The furniture is still a bit of a problem. Period couches and stoves and assorted bric-a-brac are a bit hard to come by. Thanks again.
hauksdottir posted Mon, 16 February 2004 at 2:56 PM
Attached Link: http://www.wg3d.com/Poser_Propsx.html
OK. Go here first. Cal's site is always worth browzing. I nabbed his first CD even though I had downloaded many of the props when he was posting them as weekly freebies... considering that you get hundreds of models in 2-3 different formats, they are a real bargain. The quality is high, and I've found them easy to work with (such as scissors with dialable blades so I could simply type the degree of openness or the wonderful loom and spinning wheel that I needed for a fairytale scene). He has a working 1908 sewing machine and a wood-burning kitchen stove with lots of opening doors and many old cars and carts 9including a Victorian child's hearse) and oodles of farmhouse equipment (rug-beaters and manglers and churns!). The picture is from the second CD. (He has 3 now.) If you go to the "downloads" and "posable props" sections, you can find, free, a complete old-time bathroom, and several other items such as a wingchair which might be useful to you. The train looks good too. Carollyhauksdottir posted Mon, 16 February 2004 at 3:08 PM
Attached Link: http://jlejolly.free.fr/cephalene/cadre1_eng.htm
If you search for "Jean C" in freestuff you should be able to see a nice selection of old time stuff... some typical some unique (it is the only site with a bee smoker that I know of). I hope this link works, it is with the English text on most things. She has a nice story going, too, which is undoubtedly providing the impetus for many of the props. :) Carollyhauksdottir posted Mon, 16 February 2004 at 3:20 PM
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The factory is going to be the hardest for me to help with, but perhaps Little Dragon can make some suggestions. If you know of specific tools such as hammer and tongs, searching for them will lead to results. Conveyor belts and boilers and... wait a minute! Baument!!! Ed has combo CDs filled with industrial-type stuff, and machines, and ruined buildings as well as a nifty archive of free goodies. OK, there and back again. :determined grin: The image is called valve, but it has that Victorian look to me (rust and rivets) and there are some metal stairs of indeterminate age and other background-type items which might fill in your scene. It will take a while to get through his archives, but you should be able to pick up a few odd items there, too. These leads ought to get you going. Happy hunting! Carollygtrias posted Tue, 17 February 2004 at 7:40 AM
Thanks for the great help. If I may return the favor, I've found the books 500 3d objects Vols 1 & 2 extremely useful in the stuff that I've done. If you are familiar with the models that DeEspona has done on TurboSquid, than you know what I'm talking about. The models in these books are generally the low res versions, but they really do get the job done in most cases. 500 Planes, trains & automobiles, and plenty of other scene fillers are there all for about 40 bucks a book. Attached below is a prelim of my factory space. - I should have been more specific in my earlier description, it is a furniture factory. I think the image needs some light tweaking. The residental space is a bit more of a problem for me right now- too much detail to include to make it feel right. I'll post more when the dust settles. Please let me know what you think. Thanks again for all the great help.
hauksdottir posted Tue, 17 February 2004 at 12:55 PM
Attached Link: http://secure.daz3d.com/shop.php?op=itemdetails&item=512
OK, That helps. :) Furniture. Pressback chairs need blanks and pressed output. Caning materials for caned seats (barrel with ends hanging out?). Lathes or something to make the turned spindles. Lots of little dowels and pegs. Maybe shavings or sawdust under the work areas (no industrial strength vacuums in those days). That might be added to your floor as a displacement map. A couple of the barrels might be opened and seen to be holding nails (but I don't think they were much used: most of the furniture seems to be held together with fit and pressure and glue). How was glue appled? Brush? (no squeeze bottles - no plastic). DAZ has a shaving kit with short stubbly brush and mug... that might be the sort of brush used. I wish that Lannie's site was still up... I seem to recall a plane and other tools there... but Cal should have them. DAZ does have this "workshop pak" with vises and saws and such useful items. Lighting will be tricky. You'll need enough clutter to feel Victorian and to pick up highlights hinting at interesting stuff just beyond, but you will also need a focal point. The lines all point back towards the barrels, but there are a couple of completed chairs just behind them. Perhaps an overhead spot on a final chair in all its glory? CarollyMysticMind posted Tue, 17 February 2004 at 3:15 PM
I wonder if it might be possible to resize the large image in the above post ... it's hard to see it all because you have to scroll so much, and also makes the thread hard to read.
gtrias posted Tue, 17 February 2004 at 4:26 PM
MysticMind posted Tue, 17 February 2004 at 10:45 PM
Ah much better, thanks! It's so much easier to see the entire picture now, and you did a great job!