carlosnr1 opened this issue on Feb 23, 2004 ยท 23 posts
carlosnr1 posted Mon, 23 February 2004 at 8:39 PM
Hi i am just a newbie in using bryce. When i visit rendrosity i often visit the bryce gallery and i see A LOT of beautiful pictures. Could any one tell me which is the best way to master bryce or hou you mastered bryce yourselfes?? And how long it took you to master it? I know a lot of questions but i am really curious. THanx
-Stormi- posted Mon, 23 February 2004 at 9:00 PM
The first month, I banged my head against the wall several times after hours of frustration, the second month was much the same...only a little less frequently...the third month, I took a class. ;c)
Swade posted Mon, 23 February 2004 at 9:02 PM
Well.... I started using Bryce 3D. I did a lot of playing around with it at first. I searched yahoo for Bryce... found some tutorials and then found renderosity. I joined Renderosity in January of 2001. I tried some tutorials... and did a lot of lurking here in the Bryce forum. I soaked in a lot of info and tried things on my own that I had seen here in the Bryce Forum. Finally got up enough nerve to post a WIP. That is when I discovered that people here want to help others learn how to use this great program. I have learned a lot of things through the Bryce Forum and have a lot to learn yet. There are a lot, and I mean a lot, of Brycers much much better than I am and I learn something new from them all the time.
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Swade posted Mon, 23 February 2004 at 9:09 PM
To start to master Bryce... - Do tutorials - Read the threads here in the Bryce Forum - Ask questions here in the Bryce Forum - Get Susan Kitchens book.... Real World Bryce 4 (The Bryce Bible). All it doesn't cover is the Tree Lab, and Metaballs. That is what I would say about how to learn and master Bryce.
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erosiaart posted Mon, 23 February 2004 at 9:32 PM
I thought we were still learning! LOL! Sort of like life..never ends..continues..on and on..and then..comes other lessons tagged onto that..like what is art, poser, ethics, etc, etc, etc. My ex hubby wanted to learn bryce..so he got it home.. installed it on the comp. I started playing the fool with it. He never learnt it..I sorta hogged the comp day and nite. It's like golf ..you can really really love it, or hate it with all yr heart..no in betweens..and if you love it..you become addicted. No rehab centres for either, btw..be warned. LOL. Start by trial and error..fiddle with this button, that button, click, push, whatever. Never mind if you crash..you can start back again..till u like something you made. Experiment. As Swade says..ask..no question is too silly or simple or dumb to ask out here.. even such as "how do I strangle bryce?" the real world bryce book is your bible, your ticket.. (ahem, besides this forum). Then there are tutorials all over the web. like everything you learn..practice makes perfect. So is your will to learn, and whether you are happy doing what you are doing.
RodsArt posted Mon, 23 February 2004 at 11:05 PM
3 years later I still go back & read the tutorials & forum threads. Each time you feel as if you've accomplished something new someone has discovered another technique. Mostly....just adopt yourself a Bryce family and You'll never run out of resources for learning. This is an excellent Group of people. Welcome!
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AgentSmith posted Mon, 23 February 2004 at 11:20 PM
Click, click, click, cli-...CRASH...Ahhhh, I lost everything! Click, click, save, click, backup, click, render.... (Then about 2-3 months afterwards I finally opened my manual) I learned most everything I know here in the forums and in all the tutorials absolutely everywhere. Cut my teeth in our monthly Challenge. Then when I thought I knew a LOT...I purchased "Real World Bryce 4", and discovered I didn't know jack. It's the Bryce bible. AgentSmith
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orbital posted Tue, 24 February 2004 at 2:02 AM
Elsina posted Tue, 24 February 2004 at 2:04 AM
-Lots of practise <---------------------
-Tutorials, some of them yes, many I found utterly confusing in the beginning.
-Manual and my "Real World Bryce 4" book only recently I opened (as English is not my native language, only once I knew the program a little I knew what they were talking about in the book and found out as AS said, I don't know nothing).
-What helped me a lot where free Br4-files people offered and those on the Bryce book CD, where I could move things, change textures, replace object with my own etc. Learned and learning a lot from that.
My first image was a glass sphere above a waterplane :-)
drawbridgep posted Tue, 24 February 2004 at 2:50 AM
I started with a free copy of Bryce 2 back in 1875. (Full version, but put watermarks over the pictures) Started creating chrome spheres over flat oceans (Looks like we all do that then), and just played with it. Left it alone for about 100 years and came back to it when I discovered a artists website. Then found a grown up site (this one) and have learnt more through this crowd than any reading of tutorials and manuals. The amazing thing, I still discover things I didn't know each and every week.
rj001 posted Tue, 24 February 2004 at 3:19 AM
had always been fiddling with the 3d element of my work package Autocad, then there was this free version on Bryce on 3d world magazine, read the tut, thought hah looks easy, found out it was, bought the full-on version 4 and never looked back, but leaned the most here, by listening and watching others WIP's. there's no substitute for these guys..... should come with a government health warning tho.
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Zhann posted Tue, 24 February 2004 at 4:23 AM
I started with Vue, (ducks head), and then I saw some beautiful abstracts done in Bryce, and just had to have the app. Then I asked in here what books to buy and Real'World'Bryce was at the top of everyone's list, so I bought it, then I studied every tutorial I could on Bryce, and read all the threads here, watched everyone's wips, took lots of notes....the other thing was the Bryce gallery, going through there too. There were a few people who's work I really admired and I like their style, so I set about learning everything I could about the way they set things up, asked questions, studied their galleries. And asked alot of questions of everyone here and practice, practice, practice....another good way I guess would be take RWB book, start at the beginning and try everything out, when you hit a snag ask in here, there are brains for the pickin' here, and everyone is helpful...
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Phantast posted Tue, 24 February 2004 at 5:20 AM
Yep, I started with Bryce 2 as well, and those were the days when there simply weren't the great online resources that there are now. I learnt a lot more after I got an internet connection. Before that it was trial and (mostly) error. The problem with 3D applications in general is that they are so full of features that it is hard for the newcomer to distinguish between things that are really basic and important which you must understand, and things you only need very occasionally and can ignore until you need them. Bryce is full of controls, many of which I never use, or use only very seldom. It took me a long while to learn which things are vital. I'm working on some tutorials right now which I hope will guide new users to pick up in a couple of hours what it took me several years to pick up, in terms of basic techniques.
Incarnadine posted Tue, 24 February 2004 at 6:05 AM
Still learning actually. My best advice, play with it, have fun, that's what it is all about after all. Ask lots of questions, it's a good crowd in here and you'll get help when you need it.
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TheBryster posted Tue, 24 February 2004 at 8:00 AM Forum Moderator
Simple! Find a pic you like and copy it! (I've been doing that for years - ask anybody) Seriously, if you copy someone else's work - something simple to start with - maybe by Draculaz or Catlin ;-) - you'll find you learn on the 'fly'. The more difficult stuff like DTE will come later. Don't be afraid to post your wips here for comments. This family will help you beyond your wildest dreams......
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chohole posted Tue, 24 February 2004 at 8:59 AM
I am another one started with Bryce 2, got it free as a mag cover disc, and no manual, just some tuts in the mag. Deserted for poser at one stage, but once I got on line and found this place I came back, and now only use poser to put people and things in my bryce images.
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nuski posted Tue, 24 February 2004 at 9:31 AM
Another Bryce 2 starter here. . . .but still learning ! It is not learning Bryce itself that will help you to improve. You should learn traditional composition techniques and the other principles that form the basis of excellent artwork. In this way you can use the sum total of your experiences into each new image and to solve the many problems that you may encounter. . . . .and post questions in this forum frequently! : )
pakled posted Tue, 24 February 2004 at 10:49 AM
I wish I'd said that.. The Staircase Wit
anahl nathrak uth vas betude doth yel dyenvey..;)
pertm posted Tue, 24 February 2004 at 1:33 PM
rickymaveety posted Tue, 24 February 2004 at 5:01 PM
Produced endless mirrored spheres over water, and then endless photo planes mirrored in water, then attended Bryce Camp, got blown away by what could be done and freaked out by how much there was to learn, started producing more complex boolean models, attended another Bryce Camp and this time had some intelligent questions to ask and learned a lot more, real Susan Kitchen's book cover to cover, started writing my own book on Bryce, came here to Renderosity and discovered I still have tons to learn and am still learning. Rule number 134, never ask an attorney a question unless you are prepared for a run-on sentence.
Could be worse, could be raining.
pakled posted Tue, 24 February 2004 at 7:37 PM
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I wish I'd said that.. The Staircase Wit
anahl nathrak uth vas betude doth yel dyenvey..;)
rickymaveety posted Tue, 24 February 2004 at 7:46 PM
Luckily not all of us are Ferengi.
Could be worse, could be raining.
ajtooley posted Tue, 24 February 2004 at 10:03 PM
You wouldn't know it from most of my work, but looking at the thread so far it looks like I might have been learning Bryce the longest (note I said "learning," in the present tense; people who have used it for a much shorter period of time have taught me a lot). I bought KPT Bryce 1.0 when it first came out as a Mac-only version. Ah, the days of rendering a chrome ball over water on a 20 MHz (yes, twenty) Mac IIsi with 17 whopping megs of RAM. My learning method has mostly been 10 years or so of scattershot experimentation. Maybe I should check out that "Real World Bryce" book! :)