hi guy+guys and other poser folk, I have had this problem for a while now, and its really starting to bug me, first of all I used to have my poser4 installed on a 200mhz+64ram..yup thats right!! and I never had this problem.. this is the problem, Ive recently bought myself a 2.4 ghz+256ram and gforce4 card..80gig hd... but since i put poser4 on it, 50% of the time it'll freeze.. it'll only freeze as soon as I press render.. and i know its frozen because the status-bar stays white permanatly!! (image) soo what causes this? im running poser4+propack+propack service3+ive tried the memory update thing too,,.. yup ok it does this when i have a lot of props+hair involved but with this machine?!!! any ideas would be appriciated! cheers ... :)