I believe, if one examines the facts of the past, and considers all of the censorship, site banning of moderators, admins, and even plain old users, of those whose views dissented, of those who did not understand the "rules" and were crucified for it, paranoia, hysteria and unethical treatment of past moderators if they differ from the opinions of Jack and Ed, yanking down of original posted work of those who offered it for free to free stuff if they differed from the political system, etc etc ad nauseum, it becomes clear that a change of management is a good thing. If I found out that Jack and company were secretly recoding a new database on their own, I might consider that they intended to flee into the night with intellectual property that is not their own. Working as a volunteer does not necessarily make them owners of all forum members names and addresses since they suddenly left Willow's defection high and dry and ran back here smelling a chance to make money either. Why don't Jack and Ed just get a job like the rest of us, and stop looking for easy money? Stop looking for folks to give them handouts, for folks to support them? For folks to sympathize and make things happen for them? Do you have an opinion? A mind of your own? Or are you brainwashed? I once thought they were special too. I once thought the sun rose and set on them too. I thought you should know. I support the real owners of this site and the ones whose largesse has benefitted us all. Edgenet.