PheonixRising opened this issue on Mar 01, 2004 ยท 68 posts
PheonixRising posted Mon, 01 March 2004 at 2:23 PM
-Anton, creator of
ApolloMaximus: 32,000+ downloads
since 3-13-07
"Conviction without truth is denial; Denial in the
face of truth is concealment."
PheonixRising posted Mon, 01 March 2004 at 2:24 PM
whoops. FOrgot to add nudity tag for the morph shown above
-Anton, creator of
ApolloMaximus: 32,000+ downloads
since 3-13-07
"Conviction without truth is denial; Denial in the
face of truth is concealment."
PheonixRising posted Mon, 01 March 2004 at 2:55 PM
PS: Leaving tomorrow for Connecticut for a few days so If I get email and don't respond right away, don't think I am ignoring ya. Same for IM. WIll be around tonight and in the morning though.
-Anton, creator of
ApolloMaximus: 32,000+ downloads
since 3-13-07
"Conviction without truth is denial; Denial in the
face of truth is concealment."
PapaBlueMarlin posted Mon, 01 March 2004 at 2:57 PM
Looking good :) I am definitely looking forward to his release :)
Neo10 posted Mon, 01 March 2004 at 4:56 PM
wow!! he looks damn good cant wait.
pdxjims posted Mon, 01 March 2004 at 5:23 PM
I've got LOTS of ideas for clothing, and even a body texture. I can't wait to see his morph set. Great work! And have fun in Connecticut!
PheonixRising posted Mon, 01 March 2004 at 5:59 PM
Great great. I will be providing tutorials and sevelopment resources to aid in people making products and to help them make products that work as well as possible. I will either incuded these files with him or have them for free download off my site. Do you think I will be able to get renderosity to add a section for him in Freestuff? Currently only Daz's Mil People have their own categories. Perhaps a enough new figures exist to have more categories than just the mil people? Regards, Anton
-Anton, creator of
ApolloMaximus: 32,000+ downloads
since 3-13-07
"Conviction without truth is denial; Denial in the
face of truth is concealment."
PheonixRising posted Mon, 01 March 2004 at 6:13 PM
K someone complained about the penis. The penis is just not posed. It isn't erect so please calm down. :) Image is not meant to offend people which is why I did add the nuditytag which should adreess this issue. lol on a side note isn't it funy big breasts and nipples in an image are one thing but prenises are seen as being so aggressive. :) Anyway just a disclaimer so please don't hassle the mods.
-Anton, creator of
ApolloMaximus: 32,000+ downloads
since 3-13-07
"Conviction without truth is denial; Denial in the
face of truth is concealment."
Xena posted Mon, 01 March 2004 at 6:17 PM
Looking fantastic Anton. I'm quite looking forward to making this guy some cool threads :) I'm most impressed with his torso. It's very natural looking. And hey, I love skinny girly boi's so that's something coming from me ;)
cherokee69 posted Mon, 01 March 2004 at 6:35 PM
Anton, This looks awesome. I was wondering how it was going since we Haven't heard mych lately. I'm definately going to be interested in getting this. Cherokee
Neo10 posted Mon, 01 March 2004 at 7:04 PM
Ok i'm filthy but can we see an ass shot? lol. Cant help it ask xena i'm an ass man.
PheonixRising posted Mon, 01 March 2004 at 7:25 PM
-Anton, creator of
ApolloMaximus: 32,000+ downloads
since 3-13-07
"Conviction without truth is denial; Denial in the
face of truth is concealment."
SndCastie posted Mon, 01 March 2004 at 7:31 PM
Have a nice time in Connecticut Anton :O)
Sandy
An imagination can create wonderful things
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Neo10 posted Mon, 01 March 2004 at 8:03 PM
Vey nice looking lol. You know what i like about maximus the most though is he looks fleshy even in default tones. Doesnt look well non fleshy like m3 does he looks like he actually has flesh on bones or something. i dont know maybe it is just me lol.
cherokee69 posted Mon, 01 March 2004 at 8:18 PM
Neo10, I think this is what M3 SHOULD have looked like but someone dropped the ball.
Niles posted Mon, 01 March 2004 at 8:41 PM
Looks Great... everytime I try giving M3 a chance, I just give up and go back to M2. I hope you have plans for a good wardrobe for him.
Xena posted Mon, 01 March 2004 at 8:44 PM
I, along with many people, happen to like Michael 3 just the way he is. Anton's Maximus will be a welcome addition to my growing collection of base models :)
Neo10 posted Mon, 01 March 2004 at 8:52 PM
ooh i like m3 dont get me wrong. Just i see in maximus things i dont have in m3 . I think m3 and maximus will compliment each other to tell the truth. And i must echo xenas earlier coment i love the torso.
ElorOnceDark posted Mon, 01 March 2004 at 8:55 PM
Wow! He's looking great Anton! I like his shoulder/traps area. Nicely done. I'm looking forward to seeing the morphs you have planned.
PheonixRising posted Mon, 01 March 2004 at 9:21 PM
Thanks, I have many different base styles planned that will be widely compatible with shaping morphs to avoid compounded morph distortion widely seen in the current market. Basically, instead of making Full Body morphs from shaping morphs and then just selling both, the Full body morphs and shaping morphs are created from scratch independent of each other. I aslo have an approach to making morphs which make them work better at various settings and combinations. Maximus' cr2 is different than Mil design so people will need to get used to some new things. Some will be harsh in their reactions. Others will see them as innovations. Good with the bad and all that crap. hehe Anyway, Back to work. Thansk again
-Anton, creator of
ApolloMaximus: 32,000+ downloads
since 3-13-07
"Conviction without truth is denial; Denial in the
face of truth is concealment."
PheonixRising posted Mon, 01 March 2004 at 9:32 PM
PS: Anyone know where I can get pics of Orlando Bloom without a shirt?
-Anton, creator of
ApolloMaximus: 32,000+ downloads
since 3-13-07
"Conviction without truth is denial; Denial in the
face of truth is concealment."
Xena posted Mon, 01 March 2004 at 9:39 PM
I bet there are thousands of people asking the very same thing ;) Me no help, only have hundreds of Depp pics LOL
Neo10 posted Mon, 01 March 2004 at 9:53 PM
hmm sorta i know lol. On one of the dvd's he takes his shirt off to show the scar on his back from the back injury that a year before he got the roll as legolas they didnt even know if he would walk again. Course cut to a year later not only is he walking but he is doing his own stunts to lol
pdxjims posted Mon, 01 March 2004 at 10:06 PM
Check out http://www.theorlandobloomfiles.com/ If you go picture mining there are some there with no shirt of him (grin).
PheonixRising posted Mon, 01 March 2004 at 10:40 PM
great. thanks
-Anton, creator of
ApolloMaximus: 32,000+ downloads
since 3-13-07
"Conviction without truth is denial; Denial in the
face of truth is concealment."
Spanki posted Mon, 01 March 2004 at 11:04 PM
~lurk~
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estherau posted Tue, 02 March 2004 at 5:29 AM
Will I be able to make him look a little like the Freak? I have M3 and no matter how I play with the morph dials I just can't make him look like a really big guy like the freak does. Love esther ps good work!
I aim to update it about once a month. Oh, and it's free!
PheonixRising posted Tue, 02 March 2004 at 10:06 AM
Yeah I will have a practically cartoon-like huge morph but in my own style.
-Anton, creator of
ApolloMaximus: 32,000+ downloads
since 3-13-07
"Conviction without truth is denial; Denial in the
face of truth is concealment."
shazz501 posted Tue, 02 March 2004 at 11:23 AM
i think he's looking great!!! he has a nice body shape,both front and back ;) looking forward to his release :D BTW if you need a volunteer for the Orlando Bloom pics with no shirt i can have my camera packed in half an hour if you can locate him ;)
ookami posted Tue, 02 March 2004 at 11:47 AM
One thing... if that is his default face, it doesn't quite fit with his body... the face is too round, indicative of someone with around 20% body fat, whereas the body (epsecially the abs) are more indicative of someone with around 10%... although with less muscle tone on the arms and legs. As it is, he looks like he had surgery to remove part of the skin covering his abs... I forget the name of the surgery. Just a note. Hehe... personally, I'm at around 14-15% body fat and my arms and legs are much more defined, but my abs are not. Especially on men, stomach is the last place you lose it generally.
dirk5027 posted Tue, 02 March 2004 at 12:12 PM
actually oookami you could have 3% body fat and still have a full face, I think he's looking great. Be so nice to have a new male figure, hoping we can bulk him up if we need or want to, m3 was the biggest let down in the history of daz
ookami posted Tue, 02 March 2004 at 12:42 PM
In my experience working with fellow martial artists and bodybuilders..and working at the hospital here, if you drop below 5% body fat - TRUE 6%, not altered with surgery - your face starts looking hollow. His face isn't just full, it's "soft" looking. Still, I'm he will have lots of morphs and we will be able to play around with him. Anton's stuff is always first rate.
PheonixRising posted Tue, 02 March 2004 at 5:31 PM
Hey thanks. The body morph above is one of the morphs. The head is the default. I plan to allow users to choose which heads morphs they want to use with each body morph. Thanks for the suggestions. I will keep that in mind while finishing the morphs. I am sure people can tweak to personal preference with the shaping morphs and such. There will be alot to choose from. Thanks again, Anton
-Anton, creator of
ApolloMaximus: 32,000+ downloads
since 3-13-07
"Conviction without truth is denial; Denial in the
face of truth is concealment."
PheonixRising posted Tue, 02 March 2004 at 5:52 PM
Ookami, If you have any reference material you think would be helpful, could you please email them to me provately at antonkisiel@comcast.net I would really be interested at looking over anything you could provide, whether photos, diagrams, or perhaps a Photoshop mock up using both. Thanks and Regards, Anton
-Anton, creator of
ApolloMaximus: 32,000+ downloads
since 3-13-07
"Conviction without truth is denial; Denial in the
face of truth is concealment."
Arendar posted Tue, 02 March 2004 at 6:59 PM
Looking good, Anton! Love the deault head; he's cute! can't wait to see how your mesh handles your version of bodybuilder and the more "extreme" body shaping morphs. Do post some "ethnicity" face morphs when available. Cheers!
PapaBlueMarlin posted Tue, 02 March 2004 at 7:14 PM
Anton, I think Ookami hit the nail on the head with hollowness of the cheeks. However, this is not just for bodybuilders. The face is a little too young for that particular body morph. I will send you some pics. I have to say that what we have seen already is much better development than M3 IMHO. Keep up the good work :) PapaBlueMarlin
PheonixRising posted Tue, 02 March 2004 at 8:17 PM
Thanks. As I said that head isn't a morph it is the default. Just showing the body to show I am working on morphs. :) You can choose/shape whatever head you want.
-Anton, creator of
ApolloMaximus: 32,000+ downloads
since 3-13-07
"Conviction without truth is denial; Denial in the
face of truth is concealment."
Neo10 posted Tue, 02 March 2004 at 9:08 PM
hey anton you may wanna sign up over at 3d.sk even if you dont use the pics for texts he has some great reference photo sets as well as far as body shape and posing and such go.
RealitysPoison posted Tue, 02 March 2004 at 9:41 PM
He's looking good, Anton. I joint the rest in (imp)atiently awaiting him. :D
Thorne posted Tue, 02 March 2004 at 10:06 PM
Very nice work! He is going to be a really hot item, it is obvious. Please keep us posted!
PheonixRising posted Tue, 02 March 2004 at 10:20 PM
Cool. Thanks!
-Anton, creator of
ApolloMaximus: 32,000+ downloads
since 3-13-07
"Conviction without truth is denial; Denial in the
face of truth is concealment."
PheonixRising posted Tue, 02 March 2004 at 10:29 PM
anyone knowif they allow pics for textures?
-Anton, creator of
ApolloMaximus: 32,000+ downloads
since 3-13-07
"Conviction without truth is denial; Denial in the
face of truth is concealment."
PheonixRising posted Tue, 02 March 2004 at 10:42 PM
-Anton, creator of
ApolloMaximus: 32,000+ downloads
since 3-13-07
"Conviction without truth is denial; Denial in the
face of truth is concealment."
PheonixRising posted Tue, 02 March 2004 at 10:46 PM
about the penis. It is larger my default so that when scaled, and posed, the proper skin compression effect is achieved. Also better joint parameters and more segments were better on a longer shaft. So it made more sense to start with a larger state that will be scaled smaller and posed down when it loads.
-Anton, creator of
ApolloMaximus: 32,000+ downloads
since 3-13-07
"Conviction without truth is denial; Denial in the
face of truth is concealment."
PheonixRising posted Tue, 02 March 2004 at 10:47 PM
Also I was purposely avoiding putting to many specific details in the base Full Body Morphs so people could customize them better with shaping morphs with less distortion than other figures. That make sense?
-Anton, creator of
ApolloMaximus: 32,000+ downloads
since 3-13-07
"Conviction without truth is denial; Denial in the
face of truth is concealment."
MachineClaw posted Tue, 02 March 2004 at 11:21 PM
what is the texturing going to be like on Maximus? similar to M2, V2 with head and body seperate, or more like V3 etc with one main texture and seperate eyes and fingernails. I ask cause I know you worked with V3 a lot and the V3-Male and figure you have a idea of what was good/bad in the development and was curious about how your were going to layout Maximus. Model is looking very cool so far, very natural and smooth.
PheonixRising posted Tue, 02 March 2004 at 11:40 PM
I think you have those reveresed. Currently I am thinking -Body with nails(male figure doesn't need nails seperate) -Head -Teeth,Tongue,Gums -Brows and lashes -Bodyhair trans
-Anton, creator of
ApolloMaximus: 32,000+ downloads
since 3-13-07
"Conviction without truth is denial; Denial in the
face of truth is concealment."
PapaBlueMarlin posted Tue, 02 March 2004 at 11:52 PM
Very impressive:) Anton, I left you a couple emails with some images. As far as texture sources, there are some sold through 3d.sk and some of those sets are also sold here. They are by Levius. I don't know whether you use photoshop and uv maps to texture or whether you use Cath's technique and paint the object file in Z-brush.
PheonixRising posted Wed, 03 March 2004 at 2:29 AM
xurrently I use PS. I have photos I am going to use. But I was curious. Thanks for the info
-Anton, creator of
ApolloMaximus: 32,000+ downloads
since 3-13-07
"Conviction without truth is denial; Denial in the
face of truth is concealment."
Staby posted Wed, 03 March 2004 at 2:42 AM
Anton, this looks great and I'm looking forward to see all the full body and shaping morphs. I would also like to know if you are going to include all the facial/etnicity morphs versatility that V3 had, but is missing in the latest generation 3 figures. Also could you include alternate geometry limbs and beast morphs so he could become a fantasy character? Anyway from these preview Maximus is going to became my primary male figure... Staby
PheonixRising posted Wed, 03 March 2004 at 2:54 AM
i have alot planned. I did those V3 morphs not passed on so I think you'll be happy.
-Anton, creator of
ApolloMaximus: 32,000+ downloads
since 3-13-07
"Conviction without truth is denial; Denial in the
face of truth is concealment."
Staby posted Wed, 03 March 2004 at 3:04 AM
Thanks for the replay :) Another thing, what is his height compared to other male figure?
PheonixRising posted Wed, 03 March 2004 at 3:46 AM
comparable
-Anton, creator of
ApolloMaximus: 32,000+ downloads
since 3-13-07
"Conviction without truth is denial; Denial in the
face of truth is concealment."
estherau posted Wed, 03 March 2004 at 4:19 AM
will his hands and feet morph to be bigger if we want? Love esther
I aim to update it about once a month. Oh, and it's free!
Neo10 posted Wed, 03 March 2004 at 4:24 AM
tease ya big tease!!! lol
PheonixRising posted Wed, 03 March 2004 at 4:29 AM
Yes, since Poser scalng only semi-works at times, I plan to. Maximus and M3 are roughly the same size but are proportioned differently so Maximus looks a tiny bit bigger but M3 is a hair taller.
-Anton, creator of
ApolloMaximus: 32,000+ downloads
since 3-13-07
"Conviction without truth is denial; Denial in the
face of truth is concealment."
Neo10 posted Wed, 03 March 2004 at 4:36 AM
all i know is i am glad your concentrating more on shaping morphs than on just trying to get it all done using full body morphs and such. Because Shaping morphs is how you truly bring out what can be done with morphs used correctly. I try and use shaping morphs as much as possible when ever possible.It is good to use a fbm to start with but if it has to much detail it can be more work than it is worth.
Netherworks posted Wed, 03 March 2004 at 5:06 AM
Oh no - a PENIS! Ahhhhhhhh! ROTFLMAO! Awesome work, Anton, I bet this figure is going to be nothing short of excellent :) Can't wait and I'd consider making some clothes for this fellow.
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dirk5027 posted Wed, 03 March 2004 at 6:42 AM
GREAT JOB ANTON.............he's looking terrific
dirk5027 posted Wed, 03 March 2004 at 6:56 AM
Anton, being the old perv that I am my eye wandered to "his parts" and the penis seems to be growing out of the testicles(post #43)You might know that already, just thought i'd say something. A good looking guy like him, wouldn't want him to have a complex :)
Ghostofmacbeth posted Wed, 03 March 2004 at 10:57 AM
Looks good
PheonixRising posted Wed, 03 March 2004 at 4:25 PM
thanks. just a fatty desposit around the base. just looks odd bald.
-Anton, creator of
ApolloMaximus: 32,000+ downloads
since 3-13-07
"Conviction without truth is denial; Denial in the
face of truth is concealment."
Momcat posted Wed, 03 March 2004 at 7:03 PM
Does this mean his "bits" aren't quite finished? I'm going to make what may seem like an odd request. Please, please, please, please, please...give him genital morphs that are realistic, including scrotum morphs. PLEASEEEEE!!!!!????!!!! So far, ALL of the male figures have the oddest shaped testicles I have ever seen. Stiff, plastic, and rudimentary. They all look "stuck on", like Mr. Potatohead (tm) parts. I've seen dildos that are more realistic than Poser genitalia.
estherau posted Wed, 03 March 2004 at 7:45 PM
I think his scrotum looks realistic as it is, and I've seen a few in my job as a doctor. Love esther
I aim to update it about once a month. Oh, and it's free!
Momcat posted Wed, 03 March 2004 at 8:49 PM
In that position, perhaps, but when a man changes position, other things adjust aswell, l,ol. The current state of Poser genetalia does not allow for that, giving new meaning to the term "stiffie", lol. ;->
estherau posted Wed, 03 March 2004 at 9:20 PM
You might well be right. I don't think I've looked that closely, but my little poser people usually stay at least partly dressed hehe, apart from poke through. Who knows, I might want them to run around nude one day. Love esther
I aim to update it about once a month. Oh, and it's free!
Carcinogen posted Wed, 03 March 2004 at 10:57 PM
Max is looking awesome, Anton! Please continue to keep us posted with WIP pictures. I miss the days you were at DAZ and we regularly got advance communication and occasional sneak previews of products ahead of time. Tim
PheonixRising posted Thu, 11 March 2004 at 2:08 PM
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Cancellation post. I am so sorry. Just wasn't meant to be.-Anton, creator of
ApolloMaximus: 32,000+ downloads
since 3-13-07
"Conviction without truth is denial; Denial in the
face of truth is concealment."